I saw this and thought it was another famous Torch photoshop rendering.

People aren’t EV haters, this is just boooooooring.

yeah even at $15.5k it’s CP

Oh ok. I only saw the race, which was dry so I assumed that it hadn’t been raining for at least part of qualifying. Even then, the 2014 cars are way behind 09 and even more so behind 02-04.

You’re out of your gourd is you think people are going to talk about your Miata when a 4C is parked beside it.

The Miata is great, it’s phenomenal at what it does, it’s also 1/2 the price of the 4C. They don’t compete in the same air space. No one is cross shopping the Miata and 4C.

I rest my case.

I'm sure. But that's not to say that before that it won't fall well below $60,000 in today's money, adjusted for inflation.

Here’s the rub. Some of us had underpowered cars for most of our lives. We have taken our vehicles 10/10 because of this. Driving a slow car fast is fun in its own right but for an enthusiast to have a car that’s slower than everything else in the neighborhood gets old fast.

Yes, cars evolve. And that’s the issue of branding that McLaren is having. Why buy a 650S when it’s just a facelifted 12C to most people? It shares the same engine and tub across the entire lineup, something that doesn’t plague Ferrari.

At LEAST the 488has a radically different powertrain, not just the same motor and chassis in 4 states of tune and a facelift

OK, then, how about "This Ugly GTO Might Go Cheap." I think that fits.

So, the headline should really be:

What makes you think it's "cheap?" Yeah, the current bid is $6350, but the reserve isn't met yet, and there's no buy it now, so that $6350 number is pretty meaningless.

I'd be ok if the different models were actually very different. Now it seems more like trims, with different engines and slightly different body kits.

Am I the only one that doesn't really like how McLaren is exploding in the sports car market? It's kind of devaluing the brand for me.

Late model 2001 E38 740i M-Sport. This particular shot is porn.

I found found this. Dinan 540. It's higher mileage but like to have been taken care of decently. The seller says he has service records too. Plus it's a manual.http://ebay.to/1Ee55FZ

agreed. Same goes for Orange County Choppers. Everythingggg they made looked the same, and there are bike builders out there that are 100x better and more creative.

then why supercharge it if you're going to drive it slow?