I won't even argue, it seduced me earlier this year and nothing else matters any more.

Clarkson just wants more money because he's getting a divorce, I'm convinced that's why it's still going on. I'm only half joking.

You make a valid point, no doubt. LR has been doing this in their cars for awhile now, and it doesn't seem to have created any contention with customers who use the cars in more intense situations. I suspect it does make the electrics more vulnerable to breakage, but apparently not so vulnerable as to elicit any…

Has this become the 4chan of the car world?

Always loved this model, it's understated in all the right ways.

that's so true. I wrote a thing on oppo entirely about this exact topic.

Yes. Yes you are ridiculous.

I know they'll still be excellent, but I'm still weeping a little. As long as it doesn't sound turbocharged, and still produces that flat-6 gargly rumble raspiness, I'll be 100% happy.

Coup d'état: revolutionist journalists vs. the world in a battle royale to the death. Winner gets to keep the Nurburgring.

These cloth seats are pretty rad.

It's a great list, and made even better by not putting Bangleballs on it.

here's the data for the W222. I'm not able to get the breakdown on my phone, but multiple major parts of the car have been particularly unreliable. I'm not the prototypical jalop who likes to incessantly German-bash, I love and own German cars, but the S class is truly unforgivably unreliable.

Actually the new S classes are horrendously unreliable, unfortunately.

The last thing I look at when buying a new car is the power haha

FCA products are notoriously unreliable. Pre merge, both companies were notoriously unreliable. It's not exactly apocryphal or anecdotal if there's years of CR data to back it up.

Seriously, look at the size of that monster:

Yeah we know it isn't Chris Bangle because he didn't go to the show, he was too busy being up his own ass.

Has that weird Peugeot pillar disease.

Normally I hate this kind of shit, but I sort of don't mind this one. It doesn't look very good inside or outside, but it's just bizarre and unnecessary enough for me to give it a pass. I can't quite put my finger on it.