Ah, I do have two to add:

So... by implication, you DO fault women who have an easy time breastfeeding but stop anyway?

Yes, yes, and yes! It also begs the question of why it should be Tracie's responsibility to somehow promote breastfeeding, especially given the fact that she had a miserable experience with it. Like we all have to toe the bfeeding line, because there's just this tiny chance it might be better for our kid when you…

Same here. I think that's what some of the negative comments on this post don't understand — an intelligent woman might do this thing that makes her miserable for much longer than she wants to, because of societal pressure and the suggestion that she would be a shitty mother if she did otherwise.

Ha! Yeeeeeeeees!

Pumping is really not that great. It takes longer to get milk out, it's not as efficient anyway, the machines look like medieval torture devices/S&M gear, you have to be cleaning the little parts all the time, have to find a cool place to put your milk, then your milk spills, and so on... also, for me, pumping hurt…

I'm totally with your call not to assume we know why he did it. And when I saw the idea that he's autistic thrown around I shuddered and wondered if now autistic kids and adults are going to be suspected of being potential murderers. Horrible.

Word.

I had that theory too, because my parents made it through so much stuff and were still together. Then they divorced after 25 years of marriage. Given the psychological fallout for my mom of staying in the marriage that long, I wish she'd had the courage and the support to do it earlier. Her mom kept telling her to…

She may not have deserved it, but given that I've seen a few women on facebook talk about nobody's going to take away their guns, because their guns are what they use to keep themselves and their kids safe, this stuff needs to be talked about.

Good try. Now work at getting the joke.

Well played, well played.

Correct. But they have received death threats, which is the source of some of the empathy kikipedia complains about. At least from my end.

No, I think people think that death threats are too extreme of a reaction. That's not the same thing as feeling more sorry for them than for a poor woman who committed suicide. It's not like more death will make the situation better, for crying out loud.

I wasn't trying to imply that it would have been unsurprising if the woman who took the call killed herself. That would be unpredictable and shocking too. But the point is that Jacintha's identity was not made public to the media, which kind of undercuts the shame theory. (Guilt is a different matter, but shame is…

They're certainly not poor innocent victims, I agree. But they're getting death threats. They may be assholes, but they don't deserve to have their lives in danger. And also, I haven't read too many people thinking they're innocent sweethearts.

I'm totally open to the possibility of Jacintha having been mistreated by the hospital admin. I resist the easy — waaay too easy — narrative of "the DJs pranked her, she felt ashamed, so she killed herself." That's just dumb.

I'm confused. Are you misunderstanding me or are you just deliberately living up to your handle? I'm not suggesting the nurse who picked up is to blame for Jacintha's death.

Yeah, if only those 5 year-olds had been carrying so they could respond appropriately when their teacher was shot.

My husband told me about this by phone, and I was nearly in tears all the way... am in tears now. What the hell is wrong with the US? So many of these deaths are preventable. Which little child was it that was supposed to stop an armed man with his own gun? What the holy freakin' fuck?