Socratic82
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Socratic82

Here's the thing, if Bernie’s ability to inspire people to the polls was electorally decisive shouldn't it be carrying him to victory in the primary?

In what way is he like Crowley, Crowley for a his failings was one of the 10-15 most progressive members of the House. 

Youth voters would get more cred if they ever turned out at similar numbers to other age cohorts-- a cc Bernie sure as hell doesn't seem to be changing this to a significant degree 

So you can point to the stripper pole fundraisers then? 

Cool to know you care about yourself and only yourself and that everyone else in this country can get fucked unless you get your special purity pony. 

I was speaking more of voter age— both Bernie and Biden have massive age gaps in their supporter cohorts—Biden struggles to break into double digits in youth support and Bernie’s support has been similarly anemic among older voters.

I mean this article and almost all of the other articles of the oeuvre you’re referring to seem be based on this assumption that all gay people live like a small subset of gay people in deep blue urban centers.

Wow...cool bro

As candidate— he’s pretty demonstrably better than Warren, I don’t think he’d necessarily make a better President but he’s not only outperformed her in most states, he’s actually won one whereas Warren’s best finish is a distant 3rd. 

I mean he might end up being 1 of only 3 candidates to win a state this cycle- that’d make him a better candidate than not just the flakes, also rans and billionaires but also a better candidate than people like Warren, Klobuchar, Booker, Harris, etc. This may say more about the weakness of the Democratic bench than

Bernie’s plurality argument while hypocritical given his own position in 2016, is highly dependent on coming in to the convention at 40%+ of winnable delegates.

Amy was my last non-Bloomberg/Tulsi choice of any of the candidate remaining as of last Friday but it’s a bit disheartening that Pete and Klobs dropping out means that there’s no one other than Gabbard under 70 running on either side. 

And Bernie voted for said crime bill but voted against the Gun Control legislation Biden helped push through in the early-to-mid 90s

Oh please— if/when people do this to Bernie on Gun Control a lot of those currently applauding this will rationalize and spin “but they should be realistic” etc

Gun Control folks should call Bernie on his shit with this sort of confrontation. The man voted against the Brady Bill, he’s Joe Manchin with better economic policies and a worse approach to familial relations (Sanders being a deadbeat dad is the weirdest known fact that should be but somehow isn’t baggage).

I’ll give you that he’s light on experience but for his age he’s ridiculously accomplished

Funny thing is we'd probably be in a better place as a party if we'd made him DNC Chair in 2017. The position harnesses all of Pete's strengths while drastically limiting his weaknesses 

Yeah both Biden and Bernie have some major general election cliffs they'll have to avoid 

Ehhh.... I mean his moderate lane appears to have yielded significantly more than Warren's decision to tack left-- you can't compete for Bernie’s folks so what room is there on the left in terms of actual votes

I think they mean ideologically or perhaps by age - - Bernie and Biden have mirroring weaknesses-- Biden is barely a factor with younger voters and older more consistent voters appear to give Bernie about as much consideration