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I feel like this dramatically underestimates how hard the ACA was to pass as is much less in a more progressive form. 

Oh yeah totally that whole “extending health care to tens of millions of Americans” thing totally easy.

So signaling more than actual achievements? That makes some sense, because in terms of achievements it’s really, really hard to knock say Obama’s push to pass the ACA given both the difficulty and the rarity.

When— no really, when in the last 30 years has the DNC been a decisive factor in who won the Presidential Primary? Non-Presidential- yeah the DCCC and DSCC can be big factors, but at the Presidential level not so much. 

Who won’t try? Obama went to the mat for both the ACA and some form of Gun Control- one got through with compromises the other was a complete non-starter- Presidential effort and Investment is at this point a secondary factor in non-marginal legislation passing. 

This. Also— can we just fucking stop pretending that the ACA was nothing— it was literally the single most important piece of progressive legislation to pass in half a century. It expanded Medicaid coverage for ten’s of millions of Americans.

But Our Revolution, Justice Dems, etc have absolutely horrendous records of electing progressive candidates outside of super blue districts already held be democrats...if anything they’ve tried to kneecap Dems who actually had a chance to flip those districts (see: AOC and Bernie parachuting into Kansas to try and

Watching the higher level brogressives on Twitter (your Jacobin, Chapo, etc. douches) realize this and especially how this could have a dramatic impact today b/c of the second choice redistribution of non-viable candidates has been hilarious...

The alt-write

I think they prefer alt-write now

I don’t disagree but.... Warren is also a septugenerian

Don’t say that, I think there’s a very decent chance that if we continue our slide into a banana republic Ivanka is a viable candidate to succeed Don Jr in 2032..ugh

I mean...I know you’re joking but this would make the game way, way  more compelling-- largely b/c of the drama-- who gets to choose? 

This seems way, way to needlessly complicated. 

Fair. Of course a lot of the people with the “Don’t trust the Examiner” response right now had no such objection to lifting up right-wing smears of Biden and Clinton or citing the similarly hackish trustfund collective at Jacobin.

I’m deeply, deeply worried about Bernie’s unexplored baggage but this isn’t it-- now if he’s the nominee and his rape fantasy essay or his Honeymoon in Moscow or his comparison of American actions in Vietnam to Nazi Germany or any number other hits start to play, yeah we’re fucked. 

It’s all forgiven if Bloomberg follows through on his commitment to drop a billion to take out Trump regardless of the nominee (and to be fair to the man his ads thus far have been almost entirely anti-Trump not even pro-Mike much less anti-other contenders).

I mean...it doesn’t help that he’s going to get even worse now that’s he’s been “cleared” -- the most famous of the Ukraine calls occurred literally the day after Mueller testified so he’ll probably start offering to make concessions to the Chinese on tariffs or something in exchange for dirt -- real or imagined on

If Obama wasn’t a dark horse candidate in 2008 then neither was Sanders in 2016. 

Reading between the lines of her statement— she didn’t want Roberts to have to be the tie-breaking vote because it’d make the partisanship of the court too obvious for even the willfully naive SCOTUS worshipers in the media to ignore.