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Seriously?  Also the “all poc” stuff is a bit much from the man who helped kill the last realistic effort at Immigration Reform in the Senate. 

I wouldn’t be totally shocked if Castro sneaks in to the September debates. 

He might-- I think he’s going to get a bounce out of last night, September will be his opportunity to jump to the top tier. 

Tim Ryan is what happens when someone puts Bill de Blasio in a copier and sets it to 85% 

Booker. Booker was great; Yang was surprisingly good (his 4chan/Reddit cult made me assume he’d be Ron Paul esque); Castro should qualify for the next set based on his performance; Pete was eloquent and polished as usual; Warren was near her best.

Part of me would really, really love Buttigieg as VP if only for the debate with Pence. 

Got to love the alt-right means already floating this shit- it’s 2020s- “Hillary will draft you” meme. Cooked up by the right to fracture and suppress the vote on the left. 

I mean based on initial reactions in June you’d have thought Biden was forced to drop out; instead he entered Tuesday with a bigger lead than he enjoyed before the first debate.

More Fun Trivia: Buttigieg never scammed people dying of AIDS with false hope.

Good luck with that, fuck other than pretending to jettison most of the GOP’s deeply unpopular economic agenda (Social Security “reform”, etc) Trump’s main edge back in 2015 is that he was willing to dispense with dog whistles and just be openly bigoted-- his base supports him because he gives them permission to let

Sanders also voted for the Crime bill, not sure why he gets a pass on it. (Hint- the Crime Bill passed with the support of 75% of Dems in the House including both Bernie Sanders and Jim Clyburn). 

He said the Iraq War vote was a mistake. 

He’s literally been married to women working outside the home for 50+ between his first wife and Dr. Biden, given his focus on the income threshold he clearly wasn’t even opposed to a child care tax credit but rather opposed extending it to the upper class. 

This. Biden’s not my first choice by any means but it feels like he’s being held to a substantially higher standard vis a vis his record than any of the other contenders. Not to mention as you said-- the full record including his personal life makes it pretty hard to believe he opposes women working outside the home. 

I mean— he was a Senator lobbying against a policy position, I don’t think it’s all that shocking that he was making an argument based more in rhetoric than belief.

It’s more than a bit odd to assume a person’s position before most of us were born is the same as it is today.  It’d be like assuming Warren is still a corporatist Republican due to her not switching until the 90s or that Sanders still thinks many/most women fantasize about gang rape. 

He’s literally using Republican framing to get Republican votes- given his own family background where both his first wife and his current wife worked outside the home full-time it’s more than a bit disingenuous to say he’s against women working. 

I mean it was better than last time and somehow his lead increased after the first debate following a short dip

Warren I can see, she’s climbing slowly but it’s possible, with Sanders I don’t really see it he’s on a slow downward trend and most of those votes are migrating to Warren.

Yeah, that’s what Persnickety was getting at- the base of the Democratic Party isn’t progressives, it's African-American Women