I assume it is citizen version of the bullet-proof shield in the back of the aston martin DB5 from Dr. No.
Hey, now you've resorted to "I know you are but what am I..." shocking. You really are a child, yes?
Right, and you're the intellectual superior that uses nothing but ad hominem, poor reading and comprehension skills, and ignorance. Let's hold you up as the pillar of forum participation! Stop the internets, we've found its champion!
Good grief you are child. Come back here when you grow up, infant.
And you keep hearing what you want to hear, not what I'm saying. I know all of those details—getting raped is never the victim's fault. You also keep ignoring that the perpetrators have been rightfully brought to justice. The question at hand here, and ALWAYS worth exploring is, did she make herself more vulnerable?…
Of course. However, you've provided an extreme example that doesn't illustrate the issue here. Getting shot in the face by a random stranger is not a known or measurably predictable outcome of getting drunk. Getting uncontrollably drunk in a situation where you have no support system and are in the presence of…
Good grief can you not read? I never said it was her or any rape victim's fault! Nor do I believe that, nor would I attack or make her feel as though she did something wrong.
I acknowledge your perspective, but you don't get to judge me on what you imagine I would do in some hypothetical situation. And I categorically reject the idea that my perspective should just be swallowed and remain unspoken in forums like this.
You see yourself as just a victim of life, don't you? Everything just "happens" to you and you have no control over it... I bet you do nothing but take from society, you ignorant leech.
Fuck you, I'm sure you're perfect—oh, except the part where you can't read. I never said I would "lecture" a rape victim. I would do nothing of the sort. But I'm also not going to just shut up in a forum like this and pretend we live in a world where we all are just victims of circumstance.
Well, from my perspective you have the more dangerous perspective (everyone does it so why criticize it! Everything goes!), especially since what I was saying was completely lost on you as well. We actually agree on the point you mentioned, but you apparently couldn't read past your own thoughts. Of course the…
I think that is fair with regards to the victim, but I don't agree we should clam up when the unthinkable happens—that is, unfortunately, the only thing that might make the risk real to others. But, to your point, we can use different words. I keep trying to use "being more vulnerable" rather than evaluative words…
Hey, fuck you, you don't know me. If it was my daughter that was raped, I would of course NOT discuss the risky behavior—that wouldn't be my role.
Ok, I guess we disagree—I think there are two parties at fault for two different things. The rapists for the rape and the girl for putting herself at greater risk.
Okay, I suppose that is a reason, and I realize it doesn't help her, but why shouldn't we talk about this? Why should we sweep risky behavior under the rug? Why wouldn't we use this as a cautionary tale for others?
First, I'm not bitching—I'm observing that her actions may have made her a more vulnerable target. Second, I'm sure there were many people doing many things at the party that were equally foolish, but they didn't become victims, so I'm not sure what the point of bringing them up would be? To argue that getting drunk…
Wait a minute, are we saying that no one has personal responsibility? I'm amazed that everyone seems to forget that blame isn't either/or—you don't have to reduce the blame (or our disgust) of the Steubenville individuals to discuss whether the teenager did something reckless herself. I don't know if she did or…
Fair enough.
Actually, if you had any training in firearms, you would know that if you are displaying the firearm, you better draw it all the way and be prepared to use it. Because just displaying your firearm, particularly in this situation, would most likely get you shot and give the shooter a legitimate explanation for the…