You're absolutely right, it's just kind of hard when anything you say is followed by ppl telling me I'm a rapist/dangerous person/ piece of shit/ undateable/ ect. You've maintained a mostly respectful convo with me which is really awesome considering how personal this may be to you

That's awful, and I would define that as rape cuz you're well being was threatened. If you thought I was defending that kind of behavior I apologize cuz I wasn't and if it seemed that way I should have tried to make my point clearer

I don't know why you would say that when I haven't insulted anyone who didn't insult me first. I wasn't attacking just being defensive

You were the one claiming to know what most women say, not me.

I'm sorry you went through that. Was he abusive, and if not why not just break up with him?

I get the feeling you don't have anyone around you to make uncomfortable.

Obviously I care that's why I'm trying to talk about, I'm trying to gain some perspective.

Why are you assuming it's a her, and how are you jumping from pressuring to gunpoint. I've said 100 times when there is no threat of violence, that's what I'm referring to, and I'm not getting answers just a ton of insults. This is a subject that obviously needs to be talked about but no one here seems to be able to…

That's certainly possible. I also don't many women that would submit to a man simply because of a societal pressure. Emotionally manipulating someone into to having sex with you is shitty but how is it different then using sex to emotionally manipulate someone.

I've said time and time again without the threat of violence. Pay attention. If you can't talk about something without getting emotional and defensive then don't engage. Emotionally manipulating someone into to having sex with you is shitty but how is it different then using sex to emotionally manipulate someone.…

I wouldn't do those things, I'm just trying to figure where the line is drawn. I'm not saying putting pressure on is ok, I just don't think it's along the lines of a violent rape

I feel comfortable judging you. I'm glad were so comfortable with each other

Or I'm neither of those things and you're just kinda being a dick

I think I just have a hard time wrapping my head around the idea of someone agreeing to do something they don’t want to when there is no threat of violence. Emotionally manipulating someone to do something is shitty for sure but people do it all the time in every aspect. I think rape is one of the most disgusting…

That’s not what most women say, that’s what your peers and the women you most identify with say. You don’t know what most women say, because you don’t know most women.

I grew up with four sisters and my mom, and I can’t say I saw them ever giving a shit over pleasing a guy, and they certainly didn't care about denying them. Maybe that’s how you were raised?

But people are emotionally manipulated into doing things they don’t want to all the time. When it comes to sex, and you’re being pressured, however no threat of violence, I can’t wrap my head around seeing that as rape. Yeah, it’s totally shitty to pressure someone into it, but like I said, with no threat of violence,…

Valid point. I did soften my language, but I still maintain that pressuring someone, with no threat of violence, isn’t rape. If that person can’t say no theyre gonna have a rough go at life.

No need to call me an asshole and no need to assume anything about me or my relationships

First, don’t presume anything about me or my relationships, I’m just having a conversation. If you can’t do that without getting emotional because it doesn’t conform with your line of thinking, don’t engage.