Thankfully, the M&Ps are no Sigma. The Sigmas (post-Glock Lawsuit especially) were some of the worst creatures on the market. Had one. Terrible. Worst trigger in the world. That trigger had a longer and harder trigger pull than a catapult or trebuchet. BUT it made my trigger skills phenomenal once I upgraded. I have…

The Apex trigger kits... BETTER... way better. Pull is a little shorter, reset is shorter, more audible *click,* and as light as you want to go for trigger pull.

Sidenote: I don’t recommend the Pro for most situations. I got it for a low budget competition gun with a long barrel and longer distance between sights…

I can’t blame you... There is nothing sexy about the pike of right angles that is the Glock.

Hell, even my “khaki-carry” Bersa is that configuration.

I like a hammer, safety, and honestly a SA generally. DA/SA with a decocker is my preferred alternative (some CZs have this as an option and I love em. That SP01 with some custom work... mmmn). Both of my options assume 1 in the chamber.

Granted, most of what I listed are my considerations for the Army picking up a new sidearm.

I think it was the combined factors of cost, reliability, weight, capacity, and that it is a handgun that is safe without a true safety.

With DA, a safety, a decocker, a heavy trigger, and a long pull... Majors were still popping rounds into thier feet and clearing barrels.

It was the deciding factor in my last purchase: The M&P Pro.

The vertical grip (for me) translates into a very natural point for me. At 10m with a 12” target, I can close my eyes, point my weapon, open my eyes, and probably be right on target. There is a lot of muscle memory there, but it’s what works for me.

I regretfully have to agree. Any of the guys that use it for clearing or transitions need capacity more than caliber —- esp. with the ARs we carry. The pistol won’t be the primary weapon.

A 1911 I relegate to man-jewelry and personal use. Both purposes it does very nicely.

And again, your opinion... I can’t help but agree with. The 1911s just always felt “right.”

I do prefer the M&P. For me, it’s the more vertical grip.

(Pictured: What the M9 should have been... The present 92A1 with some pretty grips)

Your opinion is spot on 52ndState.

If we are going for a cheap, reliable, accurate 9mm system... even though I personally do not like Glocks... Glocks are the answer. The whole thing is catering to the largest population that will carry…

That is just hilarious right there though. I mean, they create their own demand. *mind blown*

I sure did miss that line and went straight to the quote. My bad. Sure didn’t mean to take a man’s thunder.

Also, you sound like you are totally fun at parties. I would totally drink some beers near you.

“This will save me up to 8,000 rubles ($100) if it’s colder than -30 degrees Celsius (-22 degrees Fahrenheit) and will surely last for at least half the winter.”

This is the most Siberian thing ever said in the history of... ever. Haha!

Yeah, I like how they incorporated the 1990’s “Hang loose” into it [I know it’s a Y... but... come on]. It really screams “ ‘Hey Macarena’ is my jam, the Simpsons rock, and the D.A.R.E. program didn’t work on me.”

No wonder Putin comes off as having a “little-man complex” at times.

This relationship you propose assumes that displacement of water will become negative (sinking).

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