This essay should be FAR more widely read:
This essay should be FAR more widely read:
Seriously. Am I supposed to feel bad if CK or others don’t get their own TV show again? No one is preventing these guys from having a job and providing for themselves and their family. Show business depends on folks paying to see you work, and if enough of us don’t want to hear you talk anymore, then go do something…
YES! Also, what I can’t get over is the fact that there are plenty of other amazing stand ups who are worthy of filling the space left behind, people who haven’t done the horrible things that CK did. He had his time, he made his money, he fucked it up--BYE. Let’s give someone else a chance.
This is it exactly. They’re attempting to come back, but there isn’t any real hint of even understanding what it is they’ve done wrong or why it’s wrong. There’s no indication they’re at all interested in changing their ways or learning from this experience, or even really acknowledging the situation, or even really…
I mean... it’s not like he was making $40,000 a year and now he can’t afford food. He's going to be fine; he can afford to take a few years off learning how to be a non-garbage person.
“and let’s hope be a better person”
I’ll be honest—the women that these men victimized are serving a life sentence of having all the same feelings of shock and disgust come right back up again whenever they see these assholes, so why shouldn’t they have to serve a life sentence of keeping the fuck out of the spotlight? There are some things you do that…
I feel like these guys are hoping for forgiveness (or maybe just... forget-ness?), but they’re skipping the steps where you really work to acknowledge, not minimize, the harm you did, AND you take steps to make things right. Forgiveness shouldn’t automatically happen because time passes, and victims don’t owe it to…
What do I want from him? He can start by devoting himself to producing/connecting women comedians and take a backseat. He derailed the careers of women through his actions so he can sit the fuck down and do everything in his white-dude power to advance the people he took everything from.
maybe but also... ITS BEEN LESS THAN A YEAR. I figured maybe in like 3 years he’d come back and we’d have this discussion. but I mean. Come on.
I mean, not make “unannounced” appearances, for one. I guess if he’s hellbent on making a come back, he should at least do it under his own name instead of forcing himself on an unsuspecting audience.
Until a person who has committed an offense has actually acknowledged what they’ve done, apologized, and made every effort to make amends, I refuse to accept them as a fellow human. I don’t care if it’s cutting me off in traffic or murder.
Whew, finally a white guy catches a break.
Never underestimate the power of white men to fail upwards.
1) My first, instinctive reaction to this headline, “Oh, will you PLEASE FUCK OFF!!!”
This is a nice reminder to never let some tool derail a convo surrounding #metoo with the bullshit about the man’s career. Not even a full year in time out and he’s getting standing o’s.
I was a senior at Auburn in 2002/03 when SACS — Auburn’s accreditation org — placed the university on probation. The reason? They decided that some board of trustees members had too much power in the closing of an academic department and the hiring/firing of the football coach.
Burn this place to the ground, then take a piss on its ashes.