I keep repeating this when posting on all the Hobby Lobby articles but it is far too important a point to ignore: Hobby Lobby covered the very same birth control they now wish to deny their employees up until 2012. In what world did these 5 Supreme Court Justices have access to that information and still rule in Hobby…

You just described my relationship with the US to a tee. Growing up, all I wanted to do was move there because like you, I thought it was the "coolest country" ever.

I have an even better question: why do you come to Jez and ask questions when you're not even remotely interested in the answer?

No need to apologize for the TMI - I think people should know the realities of what women have to deal with. I bet these 'religious freedom' supporters would be frothing at the mouth if women who suffer from debilitating periods were to get welfare assistance because they were bed-ridden for one week out of the month…

Yeah I didn't mean to lump RBG in there - only the majority that ruled in favor of Hobby Lobby. And you're right, it was a political theater - and an embarrassing one at that.

Then why did they provide coverage for it up until 2 years ago? The argument that 'well they see it as abortion' doesn't hold water here. How about their investments in companies that manufacture these very products they claim to oppose?

How is it that the Supreme Court is aware of Hobby Lobby having previously provided coverage for the very birth control they claim to be so morally against (not to mention their investments and importing from China) and still rule in their favor?

Pregnancy occurs when a fertilized egg implants in the uterus (and also fallopian tube in the case of an ectopic pregnancy).

Should nude models expect people to whip their genitals out and have them rubbed on their faces when they are posing for a life drawing class?

Those articles are a response to the people who were saying that GZ was standing his ground, by turning around and saying 'what about Trayvon?' What's so hard to understand about the fact that the whole SYG argument began with GZ's defenders?

It would do you some good to give context to the list of articles you linked to because most of them present a counter argument to the people arguing that Zimmerman had a right to stand his ground, but don't consider that Trayvon may have felt threatened by being followed.

Zimmerman's lawyers were initially going to use SYG and stated so, but changed to self-defense because it would put the burden on the prosecution to prove that Zimmerman was not acting in self-defense and save him from having to testify and sit through cross-examination. You have a point that they didn't use it later…

'Trayvon Martin was a violent piece of shit who attacked a shorter, older, smaller man because he thought he could get away with it.'

It was obvious from the beginning that we would disagree on who was 'in the right', however, that is not what we were actually discussing. You made a number of statements like these:

Good God with this bullshit. Should we not try and tackle homelessness in the West because kids in India have it so much worse? Should we not discuss bodily autonomy since women in Saudi Arabia can't even drive? Or how about minimum wage since there are people in the world who only earn 3 cents per hour? Better yet,…

I'm well aware of what SYG laws are about, I was pointing out the fact that its actually team Zimmerman that insists that he was simply standing his ground, not the other way around.

'He was standing his ground.", they say—-but against WHAT? Being followed?'

But it was acknowledged in the article that there was a possibility that they couldn't help. Its right there in the quote you provided:

I don't normally warn other Jezzies about certain commenters as I'd rather debate them myself, but I had a long drawn-out conversation with evejay a while back, and he/she argues based on evo. psych bullshit and basically denies the existence of patriarchy, misogyny, and double standards (but funnily enough, complains…

'After Clueless' - haha, I love it.