They have a good idea, but they can't desk it themselves. Also, and most often the manager will send them back with at least one counter offer- just like you, they know they can't get what they don't ask for. So expect to rebuttal at least once during the deal. There is a good chance your salesman just wants to write…

You are going through life with a false impression. The majority of salesmen in the car business HAVE to desk their deals with the sales manager before they can write them. This has to do with Managers being unwilling to allow their monthly numbers to depend on a salesman who is quite often inexperienced. The manager…

Myth 3: Car salesmen are all crooks.

Myth 2: If your salesman has to "go check with his manager" he is dicking with you.

Myth: Paying cash will get you a better deal than if you are financing.

so the Ex-wife works for Mosler, running a company he is shutting down- do you suppose his cutting loose her ex could be some form of severance bonus? I have never seen a person about to be unemployed gain so much win- Ex husband is a bit humiliated, his girlfriend is the laughing stock of the internet...

enjoyed the Two Steps From Hell soundtrack on that vid. Not much else though.

God I hope not...

I believe Hellhorse has a nice ring to it.

I like it. I'll probably like it even more in the fiberglass flesh.

You found a way to give me a headache while trying to read the comments...