So true, especially with my younger one. If you run around and play outside for a while, he is much easier to deal with after.

Oh! We have this book at the program I run. It was one of the (very young!) teacher's when she was little and I was so excited when I discovered it.

Yes.

Yeah, that's pretty much it. Thank you for listening.

+1

Obviously not. Don't be deliberately obtuse, OK?

The problem is that we've all been getting those messages since birth. Message received. We are already saying "don't put yourself in that position" every fucking day. Every single one. We are never allowed to have a conversation about preventing rape without talking about that. EVER. And it's important that we do so.…

Oh, and I'm off now to take my son to the doctor, but before I go, I wanted to thank you for this very interesting and illuminating conversation. I really enjoyed chatting with you today.

The "decent" people I mean (and it probably should be in quotes) are less the people who attack the victim, than those who, even in defending the victim, still allow the conversation to be had on that level. Does that make sense? People who get drawn into analyzing every aspect of what may or may not have happened in…

I am voting for the Spice Girls only because I don't understand why BSC is in the 90s. I read those books in the 80s for sure.

Also, the reason I think the conversation is so easily derailed is that so many people just don't want to think about the big things. It is so much easier to say "oh, this happened to her because she did x" or "let's just all have guns to protect ourselves" etc. than it is to actually think about the underlying power…

Once again, wonderful response, and very well-thought out and well written.

That was a really well written response.

I did! I am sympathetic to her general situation, and yeah, these guys were definitely being assholes. I felt like that was a given, so I didn't mention it specifically, maybe I should have. Sometimes when you are trying to shift the opinion of someone who seems on the fence or close enough to what you believe, it is…

You're right that this is all connected. It feels pretty overwhelming a lot of the time, like all we can do is chip away at things and wait and it's just never enough.

I love the Spice Girls movie, and part of the hilarity is noticing how rarely she sings anything in any of the numbers, just a little background and the occasional almost spoken bit. I still love her.

I think that's what she meant actually. Not that he was wrong for not having more female influences, just pointing out that he doesn't, and hoping that balance will shift over time.

I have wondered if one or both of these companies had been looking hard for a good reason to fire their employee.

I agree that she was acting like an asshole, but she didn't vilify anyone or get anyone fired. Vilify is a pretty strong word. She quoted the joke with their pictures and said she was offended by it. No, I don't necessarily agree that that's what she should have done, like I said, she seems like a real asshole, and…

I completely understand, and I think you did a good job of phrasing your question to prevent misunderstanding :)