Jonee
Jonee
Jonee

The real thing looks better than that illustration, but it’s still a weirdo. All those Israeli Autocars cars were weird.

Definitely my favorite Group B car. It’s so gloriously weird. As it should be since it’s a Citroen.

Renault 4, no joke. This one in the picture is a Sinpar 4X4, but you didn’t need 4 wheel drive to take these things anywhere. They can drive in any condition on any terrain. Lightweight, FWD, and utterly indestructible. And it just celebrated its 60th birthday.

Just out and about? Maybe this UAZ truck on a Bronco chassis that used to live near me. It was a weird thing to see just cruising around Southern California.

Right? The Amigo was great. It accomplished exactly what it set out to be and was incredibly popular. That pick really confuses me. It was a fun, lifestyle vehicle for the young ‘uns, not a hardcore offroader.

Having owned a bunch, I can say it wasn’t executed all that poorly. Circumstances just made it not as revolutionary as it could have been. Still had a bunch of firsts.

They were everywhere when they came out. I think they hit the nail on the head.

It is in that context. You’ve never heard someone say something like, “that person has style?” But, I’ll clarify, gorgeous style and comfort.

It’s not as bad as he’s making out. Lots of fans of the Avantime. And one person’s anecdote doesn’t mean much. Not that it was a great piece of engineering, but this person may have gotten a lemon.

Yeah, it’s too coincidental that Chrysler owned Matra when they were developing the Espace and then came up with their own very similar concept. American Motors, which Chrysler would later buy, also had a small van concept in the very late 70's, so it could have been a combination of influences.

You’re really reaching. Most of the pictures posted have been 3/4 views plus saying “but they’re bad at rear ends” is just plain silly not to mention wrong.

Nope. You still don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about.

What is it not good at? It was built to carry up to 5 people in style and comfort and it seems like it succeeds just fine.

Unpopular because it’s a terrible opinion.

The Pacer had a lot of design features that were ahead of their time. It was the first American car to eschew rain gutters and extend the door openings into the roof. The first to have that rack and pinion standard. The widetrack was also ahead of its time. It was also designed to have a rollbar although that was

U.S. spec French cars are pretty exotic here, too. Those of us that love them are few and far between, so survivors are rare no matter the model.

The Stout Scarab. Not only the world’s first minivan (almost half a century before the Caravan), but it also had a revolutionary cab-forward design without running boards and big fenders. The whole thing was an unheard of concept for 1936.

The fastback crossover trend is the dumbest, worst trend in the history of automobiles. The ugliest, most pointless motor vehicles ever made. 

Now I do remember that later Euro Le Car decal like the silver one there. I didn’t realize there was one that looked like our Le Cars, too. We always want our cars to look more European, and I guess in Europe it’s exciting to have something that looks like what the Americans got.