I said this once, and I will say it again:

FWIW, she's already had the baby. She had another section after FTP with a TOL, which is what she said she wanted to have the opportunity to do in the first place.

Refusing her as a patient is quite different than threatening with CPS. That's just cruel, and a whole other can of worms.

I would agree with your comment (homebirths are medically very risky) but "good vibes" is really offensive to RNs who practice midwifery. If the hospital system was so devoted to "safety during childbirth" then our infant and maternal mortality rates wouldn't be on par with Barbados and Iran respectively.

The idea that VBAC is some incredibly unsafe procedure is pure myth and not backed by solid science, just by correlations. There are risks, of course. But there are also serious risks of placenta problems, which can kill both mother and child, from repeatedly having c-sections.

I salute you Sir! Well done, Well done!

Does it matter? Her body, her choice does not stop just because she is in labor. A patient should always have the right to consent or not consent to a medical procedure. I'm firmly in the pro-vax camp but that doesn't appt I this case. An argument with vaxes can be made for the greater good because of the need for…

This is so entirely a different thing. I can't adequately describe how different this is. There are reams and reams of data showing c-sections are overused, are used against the woman's wishes and have more complications than people appreciated for a long time. It's major surgery. As opposed to vaccines on which…

I'm actually a l&d nurse and would definitely quit my job before participating in something like that. I know all my coworkers would feel the same way.

We can definitely agree. She's taking the riskier option and the stakes are high. I would try to talk her out of it until I was blue in the face. My rights over her body stop there.

I agree that it's a dangerous decision after 3 previous c-sections. But if a woman comes into your hospital in labor you cannot legally deny care. You also cannot legally hog-tie her and do a surgery without consent. So, this is where written consents come into play... I'm super uncomfortable with this trend of…

As the unfortunate recipient of what I consider to be a medically-unnecessary (and traumatic) C-section, I do hope that she wins this battle. If she doesn't have any medical issues that would negatively impact her health or that of her unborn child, then I think she should have a say-so on how she proceeds with her…

INCUBATORS FOR ALL WOMEN WHO ARE PREGNANT.

That women should have a little respect for her Doctor, Her vaginal birth has a good chance of interfering with his golf game. Pregnant women are so selfish, they act like giving birth is all about them and their babies.

Yeezus! Are they just gonna full on make a law that women are much too stupid to be trusted with our own bodies and pregnancies?

You don't really know if he does or doesn't care about his kids. People can care about their kids and be fuck ups. People can care about their kids and not best parent.

If this were a woman, it would be the biggest shitstorm in the world, just saying.

Actually, you're wrong. In 1996, the VBAC rate was 28%, and today, 16 years later, it is less than 10%. It was not unheard of up until several years. Even the American Pregnancy Association says that 90% of women with previous c-sections are good candidates for VBAC, and they're not exactly known to be a liberal…

I don't think many people realize how incredibly rare it is to have a vaginal birth after having a c-section, for health reasons - it's called a "v-bac" (vaginal birth after cesarean) and up until several years ago, they were almost unheard of or considered. The one sentence in this post that mentions the fact that…

People with mental illnesses that are severe enough to render that person legally incompetent are deemed unable to make sound decisions for themselves. A pregnant woman doesn't fall into that category, and yet they're being treated as if they are incapable of making decisions for themselves.