Thank god. I thought I was going crazy. I do road sales, and at first last week I thought it was odd that these little towns had high prices which they usually don’t. Then I realized it’s everywhere. And you’re right with the $0.20. It spiked from mid teens to mid 30’s almost overnight. Also in southern Ontario btw

Studded tires are also illegal in most places...they make a HUGE difference

Beat me to it, I was gonna say search Hellcat, Demon, Trackhawk etc. and see that there has never been an ounce of support for any of these....

Ten Stars!!!

Dodge themselves perfectly sums it up in one of the ads for it “full-size vehicle for mid-size price” They aren’t wizards, so the costs had to be cut somewhere

In regards to the 90,000 Journeys sold. I think a large part of it is fleet sales. They are cheap, can fit a lot of shit, and can have AWD. My fiance had one as her company vehicle up until a couple weeks ago. We hated the thing, basically treated it like the family member you’re embarrassed to have. Thank god the…

WHat part of the province are you in? I’ve never had too much trouble finding it.

I knew the wagon existed over there, had no idea the hatchback was a thing. Love it.

COTD

Having sold Mazda’s (among other things) and having experienced just this, I will try and shed a little light on this. Most dealerships are departmentalized, meaning that the different sections of the dealer such as sales, service, parts, and body shop operate almost as seperate businesses. When a customer wanted us…

Don’t forget that the S is for suggested, the manufacturer never makes any claim to controlling sale price.

Not even just the malaise era. I remember when the new mustang came out in 2005 and the big news was the new V8 making 300 horses

Not so much a specific part per say, but I had a Saturn Astra, which featured a random mis of either phillips or Torx head screws all over the place, so you never had any idea what you were going to need and often had to switch part way through

BMW has already done this for you. 4-series Grand Coupe...a 4 door version...of a two door version...of a 4 door car...

Fleet sales....big, cheap to buy and insure

My girlfriend’s company gives them the choice of Grand Caravan or Journey.....it makes me sad on the inside

Just had the realization that the crazy school bus is Miss Fritter, as opposed to the magical school bus and Miss Frizzle!!

aaahhhhhh I see. I thought it got updated at the same time, did not realize the second gen was only going to China

I just tried checking this out with Canadian incentives right now...They have $5,500 off of a Verano, but not the Cruze.....So you can pick up a 2017 Verano for around $3-5k LESS than a Cruze right now....This does not seem right