Why should I have to pay the extra cash for a CA compliant vehicle and all the inspections when I can sometimes count more deer than vehicles on the roadways. We are reaching a diminishing returns level where full hybrid on all or full ev is the next level, but our grid isn’t ready.

Try replacing that catalytic converter and see what a PITA it is under the “California Emissions”. Here in NY it has to be CARB certified (read: $$$) and you can not replace it with used, even if its OEM. Its almost impossible to find a “50-state” aftermarket catalytic converter, usually your only option is pulling…

Those nasty factories left the country and set up in other countries where the US EPA has no control.  Worse for the world’s environment and worse for the US economy.  They still make the products and we still buy them, but our money goes to another country now.

LA had tons of industry up until the 80s. It still has lots and yes I lived through the tail end of this. I can’t speak for Denver because I don’t know enough about its history.

I live in New Hampshire, California shouldn’t be dictating our mileage targets. With the removal of lead and MTBE, better emission controls and cars that burn less fuel, it makes no sense to have a 49 state standard and 1 for CA. I mean a lot of states in especially in the rust belt and northeast follow CA’s target…

You can’t even convince California to accept the lower US standards, EU standards are even below that, so good luck.

Though realistically every automaker pretty much builds to California specs anyway (at least nowadays), it’s dumb that there are different standards between states.  You can’t tell me you think it’s a good idea that you can cross a state line, buy a car, and not be able to drive it home.  Making all states share…

Raven is actually black, not grey. The Subaru name for it is Crystal Black Silica.

This car is trash with 200hp!

Very true, hence why it’s called Raven gray. Last time I saw a Raven, pretty sure it was blacker than night. 

Was that “Turbo” pattern on the seatbelts factory? If so I never noticed that.

Is this the same engine as in the 340/440? I see no appeal of this over a 3 series then other than nostalgia for a nameplate

It’s amazing that Toyota managed to dilute a legendary brand even before the reveal of its successor.

If any of you are in the market for either the 4/6 cylinder, remember that the proven 230i/M240i/M2 exists.

Just remember one thing:

I agree with you, especially given the ridiculous price I anticipate this thing will be selling for once released.

The stark difference between the 370Z and the soon-to-be Supra, is that the Supra will include forced-induction from the factory, with a motor built to take it from the get-go. This means minor modificatio…

I am in no way knocking the BMW inline-6 (or even the inline-4 for that matter), but it surprises me that Toyota isn’t doing its own powertrain at least for the high end model. The new Supra, while probably really goddamn cool, just seems like another attempt at re-skinning rather than truly trying to engineer…

I’m glad I’m not the only one that saw the power figures and went, “huh?”

Wow. So we get a Supra without Toyota reliability, a relatively high price, two engines with the highest output only being 335hp, and no manual transmission.

F Toyota, F the Supra, F the 4 cylinder engine and F the F*ing Fs that won’t show us the F*ing car already. F!

Pricing still has me in sticker-shock.