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I sold two Terminators in the same month, an 03 and an 04. A coupe and a Convertible, Silver and Yellow respectively. One was sold to a young enthusiast as his first hi-po car, the other to an old timer that traded a silver over red AP1 S2000 in for the convertible. I have driven both, and they're glorious, even if

I think you're all wrong. Ford is doing a good job of fooling everyone into thinking they're testing an out of market car, or planning on bringing the Everest in this market. I'd be willing to bet that they're testing the platform to bring back the Ranger to compete with the Canyon/Colorado twins.

That's part of the joke. They're stupid, so they get a stupid name.

Do I know my used Ford Markets or what?

LAAAAANNNNNNNNNNAAAAAA!

As mentioned, sales price and rebate are two different things. I'm reasonably certain rebates cannot be withheld in California, you get what you qualify for regardless of what you negotiate on the sale price. To keep things simple most people (including dealers) negotiate the out the door price (Sale price + Tax +

Yeah, ours was a mom and pop before being sold (still work at the same store), and as much as people complained about the owners, they were reasonable with the shop costs and pack.

No dealership I know still uses foursquare, that's a really old-school approach that turns off a lot of buyers. Maybe some mom and pop low volume dealers, but none of the Volume ones.

Probably low miles and 30-40% of the MSRP originally too!

Yeah, it can be work, but if you want a easy no brainer deal, TrueCar keeps shit competitive. If you want an easy hassle free deal, going with TC is a good option. It'll net you a good deal and cut down on some time. Another thing, don't be so damn picky with options, flexibility will lead to an easier deal. An easy

ti's are so interesting to me, there was a guy on bimmerforums that swapped an m52 or s52 in one, it was pretty cool.

HAHA, I have a Dsylva 7100rpm redline in my 91. Daily 1st and 2nd gear pulls up to 7k is fun.

Mind you, this is coming from a RWD loyalist. The FoST is a hoot to drive, but it has a shit tonne of power. I prefer the FiST for it's streetable, not-going-to-get-you-in-too-much-trouble slowness. One of the reasons I got the 1.8L E30 vs the 2.5L or 2.7L. The Fiesta ST is the only car I could conceivably give up my

Haha, yeah the turning circle is shit. There are bonuses with this though, you choose which you like:

This isn't implicitly true. 0% is often offered on cars that don't sell well, and more often on cars that move, but there is a massive sellathon/push/whatever-reason-to-have-you-come-to-the-dealership-and-buy-a-car. I've not seen a deal that requires you pay MSRP to get 0%. Usually there is a trade-off.

Well, 13k down is a lot, but have you seen the depreciation on large SUVs? It's kind of obscene for what amounts to an F150 with a camper shell and IRS.

The lease is really attractive on the FiST too, there is some flexibility involved with that of course.

They're just buying down the rate from the bank, rather than discount the car, they discount the rate.