Well I worked in F1 for 22 years, I admit never for McLaren, but I could get a feeling for the operation.

I think there are very few exceptions, I find myself mistaking many cars for others. The Caddies are just hideous, any of the high end nice looking cars will be in the minority on the road as in any other era.

I would still say that is true, there are very few exceptions. The bottom two are almost exactly the same as well.

Personally I feel like modern cars are appliances, that is fine if you need a commuter car, but for real driving I just don't feel anything in the new 911s ect. They assist you so much, so stable, not much vibration, muted, plastics feel the same in most brands. I could never see buying a new 911 over a nicely tuned,…

Yeah, summer tyres on an AWD will get you four slippery contact patches, useless.

Yeah, the McLaren people just don't know how to relax and feel some passion.

Is this like Red Alert in space, with a fleet? Looks nice.

Yes I know all of this, I'm a retired race engineer. I have had many Mercs over the years, never worked for them though, only Germans with BMW, with Sauber. Oh and I'm half Finn, half Swede, but I prefer the fuel injection pump work of Gus Pfister who now resides in the USA. No they don't look fast, the aero is…

I had an orange original, not to quick haha

This isn't the point, its not a fast looking car. I DD a 300D Turbo. They are designed for highway runs, the diesels have great momentum at higher RPMs and the turbos spool up and have loads of torque at highway speed. Stop lights are the problem, even with my tuned pump you have to wait for the turbo to get going.

That was one version of the car, there are more powerful versions. I wish people would stop calling them Corvettes. I have a Conrero and I don't think they look like one in person. The headlamps do a barrel roll, not a flip too. The body was a French design and the rest was built in Germany.

That has nothing to do with my argument, drones are flown from the ground and they can perform maneuvers a human can't survive. We will see much more piloting from the ground. The Navy is using huge drone aircraft to patrol the Pacific instead of so much satellite use, just happened recently. Why put someone in the…

I just see a god awful vehicle, that is ugly.

I was told it was his, he owned it. He also sold his house in Helsinki.

Wow that doesn't work, don't the Italians always say they have good taste and style?

Monte: Kimi you must drive this

Its so tiny!

Hmm, now he has to get that Enzo back, he sold it.

No, think of it as payback for them being asses to him last time. Think of the Alonso tantrums.

Massa got a speeding ticket on the way to Monza in one of those