I recall hearing somewhere that you had to have the friend on your list for 30 days before they could use it. It still doesn't explain though why any publisher in their right mind would be OK with Microsoft halving their profits by means of this feature.

The question you don't ask is this: Why would publishers allow Microsoft to set up a system where one person buys a game, and potentially 10 people can play it in an unlimited fashion without buying it? This is worse than the used game 'epidemic' that is supposedly killing publishers and developers.

Early 20s here and I still love the originals, my folks still have the original VHS tapes lying around. But, when I just think of the acting of 4-6 I just can't help but think of how terrible 1-3 are.

See...this is why I don't deal with the whole man/woman/trans/xeno/hydra/quadro/blended/neutral/mixed/furry whatever the fuck you kids call yourselves these days. I'm not dealing with it.

You have successfully constructed a monumental labyrinth in which to navigate gender. I'm sure you're very proud of yourselves.…

The prequels are way more accepted among younger people who aren't familiar with episodes 4-6. I've talked to teenagers and people in their early twenties who vehemently defended how good they think those movies are. Maybe it's just a matter of growing up with those movies.

I guess i'm a horrible person for enjoying the prequels (mainly 2 and 3).

I really liked Brandon Routh as Superman (even if Returns wasn't the greatest), but he still managed to be great in Scott Pilgrim as well.

I heard this rumor also.. It's Microsoft,.. Of course it's probably true.. that's how they roll.

Apparently it was basically a 60 minute trial for a game. You'd download the whole game and then it would let you play any part of the game for X amount of time.

Who cares. They already said that the Family account thing is just demos and Microsoft is NOT Valve. I don't see them doing great sales. I don't see them having good prices. Hell this generation when they added games onto their games on demand service they were almost ALWAYS priced higher than retail for some stupid…

The scary thing is, the more I read your comment, the more I'm convinced you're right. Why in the hell would Microsoft and big publishers go to all the trouble of cutting out the traditional used game model when, in its place, someone could loan an entire game to not 1, but 10 other people? From that perspective, it…

Just in case anyone was confused about the so-called "loss," the family share plan was just a glorified demo. 30-45 min.

"When your family member accesses any of your games, they’re placed into a special demo mode. This demo mode in most cases would be the full game with a 15-45 minute timer and in some cases an hour.…

This is the link floating around the internet today:

If you think MS were going to be able to force publishers into that, you're absolutely kidding yourself. They already hate the idea of preowned, and that's a system that allows people to trade their old games against the cost of brand new ones. You think they were going to just let everyone give nine copies of a game…

I still don't understand how this family and friends sharing thing could work. When developers would lose money. You could have 10 people buying a game for 60 dollars or one person buy it and share it with 10 people who get to play it for free? What kind of business model is that?

A future =/= the future. Really sick of people not getting this. Stop leaping to be herded by the first poorly conceptualized little shiny box you see with a tag labeled "new" attached to it. Bad ideas are supposed to fail, this was a bad idea.

Have a link to this? If so, that makes all this griping by some people about the 180 even more laughable.

A purely digital online console is a forward thinking idea, true. But internet infrastructure isn't anywhere near the level it should be for such a console in the mainstream, and MS's version of one was a pretty poor idea to begin with.

So the sharing wasn't even full games actually. It was basically a 30 minute demo period instead of a full game sharing.

I just got done reading the pastebin message. And "holy shit" if that's true about the Family Plan. Honestly, the entire piece just made it seem like everyone in the Xbox division is not only completely out of touch with console gaming, but have an almost cultish belief in their "vision" of a future in which they…