you need to go to some hydraulic shows. the level of detail and passion that any one of them will put into a singular undercarriage bolt that can’t even be seen makes numbers-matching, historically-accurate restorations look like child’s play.

Problem is if you max out the 12k lbs tow rating that’s 1200 lbs of tongue weight. Literally nothing left for passengers or cargo.

UPDATE: Okay so it’s MORE payload than the 3/4 ton RAM Power Wagon then (non-tradesman). Got it.

To be fair, some of those Ford Raptors were under 1000lbs payload capacity. Soft springs for bouncy offroad chops equals poor payload.

beautiful take

To be fair when something new comes out once every 15 years it garners a lot of attention and articles. Imagine how many Challenger/300 articles we will see in 2030 when they the current cars get another mid-cycle refresh.

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I just like that the “All New Frame!” reference could also apply to your much older Tundra or Tacoma as well...

There’s a clear reason why you don’t see Tundras on job sites. Abysmal mpg as well compared to the Fords and chevys I’ve driven.. No experience with Rams. The Tundras do however ride nice, so there’s that.

Offroad trims take a penalty from other configurations on the vehicle. We also have different (higher) standards, drive more miles and have overall higher speed limits. I’ve seen a Lada packed with a tonne of mandarins, just because it’s possible doesn’t mean you should do it on American highways. 

Not at all. They go together. A travel trailer has about a 15% tongue weight. So say you have a 12000 lb towing capacity, 15% of that on the tongue would be 1800 lbs of payload. In the highest spec Tundra, I couldn't tow that and sit my fat ass in it let alone passengers. I had a 2015 F150 with over 11000 lbs towing…

Just take a look at the trucks rolling around during hunting season. You could have an easy 1000 to 1200 lbs of people in the truck alone, all sorts of gear, dead animals, and a trailer with a couple 4 wheelers in it. That’s not an odd scenario and it exceeds nearly all 4 wheel drive 1/2 ton truck capacities, in some…

That’s bed payload, not towing capacity. The towing capacity will be much more. Looks like the 2021 was rated for 9200-9900 lbs depending on spec.

All of these are consumer grade trucks not exactly designed for ‘real work’. And by ‘real work’ I’m referring to hauling around anything more than what a weekend home improvement project needs. You’re not driving down to a building supply store and putting 50-bags of concrete on account, renting a towable cement mixer…

This is America, you could easily have 5 adults at 300 lbs each onboard, all the payload gone right there.

Sod, especially when damp, it adds up really fast.

like the 95% I’ve ever seen that carry nothing heavier than a mattress...

“What are you hauling that’s more than 1500 lbs” ???

Can’t wait for the slideshow! 

The cooling capacity to haul heavier loads must be limited by the smallish grill? /s