EmpressInYellow
EmpressInYellow
EmpressInYellow

You managed to cram a lot of terrible arguments into a single post.

WHO will never be happy? Again, you're acting like "feminists" are some monolithic group, who will all either approve or disapprove. Saying "you won't make something that every single feminist in the world likes" is true, but it's also an utterly

"Well, to be fair, assertiveness, even as Her Holiness Anita is considered a very "male" trait. "

Right, but that's part of the problem that I'm talking about.

"Also, you are making a huge leap to say that if someone says she's like a man because of her assertiveness that it's automatically negative."

I'm really not,

Man, the Palin stuff was all over the place.

And the Clinton stuff...well, her being called a "man" because she's assertive is just as problematic as being called a man because of her appearance, albeit for slightly different reasons.

Certainly, there are people who obsess over the appearance of male celebrities. I

"I know this, it's also no secret women innately hate other women."

Ugh, for fuck's sake. Now you're just trolling.

Yes, clearly, academic disagreement is the same thing as catty jealousy. Oh, no, wait. The other thing.

"She is doing a very poor job of it then. The people who buy games dictate what games developers make,

Your post implied that the "black and gay groups", like the feminists, had been "getting loud" and "making insane claims". I was asking for clarification as to what those "insane claims" are.

You also don't really seem to understand very much about feminism aside from the Rush Limbaugh stereotype. Did you know that

"I don't think feminist will be happy with anything developers do. Some will like the change if we did things her way, and some wouldn't. We could make our women in gaming look less sexual, and put armor, and such on her to make her look stronger, but then some would probably complain about how they are hiding her

Haha, those mouthy broads, am I right? Won't they EVER be quiet?

Seriously, grow up.

Eh...I don't know that TV Tropes is exactly a reliable source.

Certainly, it has some good info, but it also has a tendency to want to define EVERY SINGLE THING as a trope (or in terms of its relationship to a trope, ie. "this story point was totally a subversion of trope X!")

Some of the stuff in there is legit; some

If people are disliking before they've even watched the video, I think that DOES prove her point.

That point being "Wow, some people sure are hostile to the idea of discussing representation of women in games."

I was going to respond, but then I saw:

"the feminist "movement" like the gay or black groups have been getting loud lately"

...and holy shit. Seriously. You need to look at what you just wrote there.

And yeah, advocating for decent representation is TOTALLY NUTS AMIRITE?

(Seriously. What "insane" claims are, for

You can still market something towards men without disadvantaging women, though.

(And gaming isn't as "male-centric" as people like to think, based on actual statistics. Certainly, a lot of the women gamers in those numbers are playing more "casual" games, but that may partly be precisely BECAUSE those games tend to

Once you start looking for it, believe me, you'll see it. Hillary Clinton being called a "man" (or ugly, or whatever) because she's assertive. People focusing on Sarah Palin's appearance instead of her qualifications (or lack thereof).

Look at the reactions to when people post celebrity pictures. With women, you'll

I'm well aware of how Japan treats gender issues, thanks. When you complain about "projecting Western gender and sexual identity politics", you can come awfully close to moral relativism, ie. "Hey, if they treat those people like shit, you can't complain. That's just their culture!" Please don't assume I'm ignorant of

I know it's around here somewhere, but I suspect it's not in great shape (and probably missing one of the covers).

There continues to be some debate over just how the character was originally intended, at what point the decision was made to have her be trans, etc.

Her original appearance wasn't in a fighting game; it was in a side-scrolling beat 'em up (which conspicuously lacks non-trans women being beaten up by the main

...is there a reason you put "transsexuals" in quotes?

And I mean, on some level, I'm with you; if the person is violently attacking you, well, go for it.

But the idea that trans people are "okay targets" as opposed to non-trans women is...uh...well. Kinda gross.

(Now, the real story of Poison's development may be more

"First and most iconic" isn't necessarily a great recommendation.

"Everyone gets their appearance commented on."

Thanks for taking the time to do that, seriously.

...uh huh. Do go on.