I do love these discussions. StarTrek makes it easier for me to disprove these things in style because of the number of shows/films that exist, so I'll do that :)

A human that tries to force their ignorance of technology on others is a human that I, and millions of others, have no tolerance for.

As a BB guy I would have thought you'd be slower to jump on the hate bandwagon :)

Because I like being able to steer with the gas peddle, and I don't mean doing burn outs. I however track my car, so I do not pretend to be the potential majority to which you are speaking.

Maybe it's my lack of a race seat and 5 point harness, or the lack of power steering, but I can't imagine taking a corner with only one hand on the steering wheel. Actually, I'll just assume I take corners in my POS track rat significantly faster than he does.

8K buys you a lot of extra HP :)

Pardon my ignorance, but was that a turbo engine? That's pretty impressive for NA. What was the redline?

The M42 is perhaps a better comparison. My point was that if they can't match a 30 year old engine design, an engine tuned for a 4 door family sedan, what were the engineers doing? The S2000 had an amazing motor by all measurements, and was built for sport not for usability. I'm willing to let them slip a little bit…

My comparison was to an engine designed and built 30 years ago, to make the point that if you just used modern engine tech and design it seems like you should be getting a little more power out of it. Did they design it for reliability or fuel economy? Obviously they didn't go balls-to-the-wall power, but it just…

*scratches head* 155hp from a 2 liter engine? Am I missing something? The M20B25 in my 1989 BMW E30 has 168 hp and 167 lb-ft from a 2.5 liter. For the love of sports cars why is this engine so weak ? I don't need hellcat power, but it seems like with todays technology you'd have to try hard to design something that…

You may want to check your aggression and attitude. I dealt with it by thanking you for your additional information. If you'd like me to "deal with it" in a different way, please advise.

Stating what my cars do and then pointing out it's just anecdotal is not a ridiculous statement. Thank you for the more general information. I'll have to try it on my newer car, I might get one press out of it. I doubt I get "two or three" pedal applications though. On my older car I don't think I do.

"they"? My two cars sure don't. I'm not an expert on every car though. Mine are pressure assisted by engine vacuum. As soon as the engine is off the vacuum is lost and the brakes are no longer assisted. It all comes down to right foot power.

I guess you have some info I don't. The article doesn't mention the posted speed limit, the distance the vehicle traveled, or just as importantly, the mass ratio of the two vehicles.

Are you just making a global statement, or are you also applying it here? I agree with the global but you'd have to convince me that the minivan did anything wrong here. I see no signs that they weren't defensive. Being defensive does not mean you can avoid every wreck.

My guess would be quite different. The GM ignition thing has killed more people in a shorter period of time with (potentially) fewer cars. While I would also rather my car turn off, statistically I don't like the chances on the ignition one.

Manageable...for you. Granny in a Suburban is going to have a helluva time making the turn at the intersection if her steering goes out half way into it. Also, power brakes also go out, which is a far bigger deal to me than power steering.

How do you come to the conclusion that the minivan wasn't paying attention? I see about 1.0-1.5 seconds between the Prius pulling out and the sound of locked wheels. Given the average reaction time of a human and the time between initial pedal depression and wheel lock, I'd say the minivan was on the ball.

Another reason to remove a badge would be if an engine swap has been done. I don't know if debadging is more common among BMW owners, but it wouldn't surprise me since the last two numbers generally apply to the size of the engine. If the engine swapper is feeling clever, they will re-badge it with something more…

IMHO you missed one of the biggest things with the ApplePay system. When you use it, the retailer won't: know your name, know your card number. Apple won't: know what you bought, how much it cost.