Used to be a fan of both until one of the series decided they were going to be WWE-on-wheels. It used to be about racing, but it hasn't been for a while now. I used to watch every race. Then they introduced the Chase bullshit, a "Car of Tomorrow" that was a pathetic 1950s piece of shit (and the fanbase and teams…

I used to watch it up until 5 years ago when I stopped completely. F1 has its own shitload of problems, but at least they're trying to make *racing* the show. NASCAR doesn't even bother pretending that the show is anything but the wrecks and driver fighting each other every other race. BOOGITY BOOGITY BOOGITY.…

NASCAR drivers are not athletes. The cars are slugs compared to F1 cars. I hate it when NASCAR fans get defensive about that WWE-on-wheels shit. I used to be a NASCAR fan, then they introduced the Chase and flat out promoted the "fuck racing, this is all about drama!" crap. I will give one exception, actually:…

Let's not compare NASCAR and F1. F1 cars require physical fitness to drive. NASCAR had Jimmy Spencer once.

Lowering horsepower in WWE-on-wheels is rather counterproductive. The whole point is they go fast and the crashes and shit get all violent.

Oh sod off. Spoken like a true shitty driver annoyed that they can't go 60 in a 30 while texting. NYC had an awful problem with speeding and reckless driving for the past decade, and for those of us who are safe drivers it's nice to see the assholes who make driving, walking and biking dangerous for the rest of us…

Problem: they're looking at a couple thousand square miles of land and water here. Who cares what the satellite resolution is if they have nothing resembling an idea of where to look in a gigantic radius of space.

Good. I'm sick and tired of douchebags who can't drive ruining it for the rest of us. Driving in NYC is hell because of these jerkoffs who run red lights, speed like crazy in cars they can barely control and generally disregard all traffic laws. Nice to see NYPD finally do their job.

I'd advise you to get on Andy Cuomo's back on this issue, too. He's as big a sellout as there is and has said he'd sign a bill banning non-dealer auto sales.

Lots of people need to be in jail this time next year. This is horrible. Also, not shocking coming from GM.

NYPD: *beats shit out of unruly pedestrians getting in the innocent car's way*

New York is next, as the dealers lobby is pushing hard for it, and (what else is new) asshole motherfucker sellout Cuomo told the dealers he'll sign the bill if it passes.

Well this is all my hope. Bot the pro and anti-purchase posts make interesting points. I have zero reason (even if the guy spear-heading this loves cars) to trust these investors, as the business model for these types of firms is usually to suck every last penny out of an entity and then discard it to collapse. As…

Lads, it ain't the paint that's exciting, it's the technology and pure speed of the thing. All that speed! (Not that kind, Robbie Ford.)

Look, I'd take Belichick's advice to heart, too, but leaving the combine is a bit much.

So, the average NASCAR fan, FOX News and ESPN are kind of dumb? News to me.

So many souls to devour, so little time. :'(

Oh god it's growing.

My wing is rising watching this.

There you go, crushing my hopes and dreams.