And what did either of the two major parties do about it since 2000? Electoral reform was and is desperately needed and nobody gave a shit. The Democrats should’ve made national ranked choice voting one of their primary goals after 2000, they didn’t. So shock and awe, it happened again sort of! Let’s blame our fellow…

Sixteen years. You guys had sixteen years to change something since 2000. The Libertarians and the Greens never had any real power, they were a joke, but the smallest thing they had was the ability to at least get on the ballot. However, when this SAME EXACT GODDAMNED THING you’re complaining about happened 16 years…

That’d be excellent. Democrats sort of just rolled over for everything when Bush and the Republicans had total control for 6 years, so it’d be great if history didn’t repeat itself.

Plenty of hypocrisy on both sides, no doubt. I personally look forward to Democrats finally being anti-war again.

This is my response to Seoul a bit downthread, as my comment is either not showing up now due to a weird kinja quirk or she dismissed me because my argument was obviously trollish (wouldn’t know, I’ve never been dismissed before)!:

I wonder how many people will be in here demanding that commenters refer to Trump by his proper title, President Trump, after he’s inaugurated? That they should show him the respect the election has earned him? Probably not too many.

I also saw calls for California to secede not a day in! I guess we’re all…

Blame 3rd party voters? If 3rd parties were so terrible, so evil, why the hell are they allowed on the ballot at all? I’m sorry, but the real culprits here are 1. The DNC running the most unfavorably viewed candidate in decades and expecting everything to go great because hey, she’s not Trump! and 2. THIS SAME THING…

You guys had 16 years to do something about spoiler candidates. Neither the Reps nor the Dems gave a shit after 2000. Just blame Nader! Pay no mind to your flawed candidate that couldn’t even beat Donald Goddamned Trump, pay no mind to an electoral system that was proven to be fundamentally flawed but that people only…

I’ve had people on here call me a racist, sexist neo-confederate gun nut for being a Libertarian. You guys /really/ think Johnson took more people from Hillary than Trump? Is this really the lengths you’re going to sink to to blame anybody but a. Yourselves for nominating such a flawed candidate or b. the two major…

You really think more Johnson voters would’ve voted for Hillary over Trump? None of the later polls support that.

Why not blame the two major parties for doing something about our current electoral system that allows for spoilers at all? We had this happen in 2000. Why weren’t the Democrats immediately on instituting a system like ranked choice that’d eliminate spoiler candidates forever? If we have a system where you are blaming…

Let’s blame our fellow Americans who voted for someone who was legally on the ballot instead of, I dunno, blaming the two major parties who did nothing about election reform when this same goddamned thing happened 16 years ago.

All the years of congress just handing extra authority to the president will be coming home to roost.

AP just called Trump to win Florida. My county went blue, but it was one of the few.

We had a wake-up call as a nation about spoilers in 2000. We should’ve done something about First Past The Post many years ago, like doing ranked choice like what Maine is voting on right now. We didn’t. 16 years and nobody gave a shit. Voting reform was sorely needed but nobody cares about it until the presidential…

Since it happened NEAR a polling place in LA and not AT one, I’m guessing it’ll be the kind of shooter that neither side can use as a political cudgel against the other and thus we will never hear about it again.

Now they just need to add idle poses!

In the US at least ‘Neo-Nazis’ and white supremacists, the actually really open ones and not the people who are anti-immigration that people like to paint as white supremacists in order to score political points, are seen as a joke. They’ve been around for a long time (The KKK has had marches through small towns for…

Unrelated to what you guys are talking about, but apparently the last verified veteran of WWI was an English woman that was in the Women’s RAF and she died just 4 years ago at 110 years of age. The last US veteran died the year before, also at 110 years of age. I just thought that was pretty amazing that these people…

I remember wanting to see this movie ages ago and never going through with it.