CopperRosePetal
CopperRosePetal
CopperRosePetal

Just shut up. You're ridiculous.

Did you really just Godwinize a discussion about black hair? The holocaust, really?

Really? I feel like I understand the Holocaust, how airplanes work, how is babby formed, and a whole host of other things without relating to my personal experiences. The thing is, some people (black women in particular) are trying to explain a very personal and multi-faceted cultural experience that has nothing to do

Learning about something doesn't require being able to relate it to your own experiences. You could just learn about something that falls outside your experience. That's part of the problem, that people outside of an experience demand that you show them how it relates to them somehow in order for them to learn/care

When the conversation is about black hair, and you butt in with "I understand exactly what you mean, I have a Jew-fro, man is that annoying!" then yes, you're being a jerk and trying to make the conversation into something you can relate to by claiming membership into a club you aren't in. Do you even know what the

This is about hair. Shut the fuck up, please.

I don't think it was counter-productive, just a way of saying "I know what the responses are going to be and I don't want to hear it". Especially since Jew-fro is a term people within the Jewish community use to describe it, even the term is an appropriation of something from black culture. So I think it's appropriate

It's just...seriously not that big of a deal. The fact that people are trying to state in earnest that this is akin to "trivializing the experiences of people of color who aren't non-white enough" is frankly fucking absurd and everyone should be embarrassed to even have this conversation.

That still doesn't change the fact that nobody is harmed in that statement and taking offense to it is silly. Unless you really want to talk about your Jew-fro and are feeling censored, I don't know what to tell you. The author was relating exasperation at people not privy to a particular struggle trying to insert

Or, since no one was actually harmed by saying "now is not the time to bring up your Jew-fro" we could just leave it as is and everyone can stop jumping to the defense of groups they don't belong to in order to prove their street cred as the least problematic Jezebel poster.

So if we can't generically address all the ways in which people are stupid and shitty, we'd better not single out one specific way, because that would be unfair.

So you fully admit that the reference the author was making was legit but advocate that it be made more generic so that those people making those comments don't get offended? Mmmkay.

Maybe we can expand the definition of "people of color" and "experiences" so that nobody will ever feel left out when we have a discussion about them ever again.

Yes, you certainly have a right to keep talking. Just like a person inside a hole has a right to keep digging.

I think in your zeal to come to the defense of Jewish people (of which you assure us you are not a member) you don't know what the hell you're talking about. I'm fully rested, thanks.

I also missed part of this earlier, but aren't you basically saying that Ashkenazi Jews are "not real Jews"? Are Mizrahi Jews the only "ethnic" Jews to you? Everyone else just happens to practice Judaism? Because that's kinda fucked up.

I feel like I can engage in a discussion that began with a stupid premise and both things can be true simultaneously.

Oh I love the game of "you don't know what I am even though I've been defending this specific silly point this entire time!" Sorry, don't care. You need to learn how to stop making discussions all about you when someone asks you from the beginning not to.

Don't worry, that's not why I called you stupid.

The point is the experiences of Jewish people are used to trivialize the experiences of black people, not the other way around. The author was attempting to preempt that "oh hey I know exactly what it's like to be black because I have curly hair even though I'm white" by telling you to knock it off before you even