The difference here is that in other seasons people were very torn on who to choose. So going with two or three people to the fantasy suite made sense because it's still up in the air who to choose and maybe the last element to be tested was the sexual chemistry. But Andi knew she had no feelings for Nick and knew she…

I haven't watched the show, but if he was honest the whole time about his feelings and explained how sex would mean something more to him, then she had the responsibility to tell him whether she was doing it for fun or just to see if they're compatible. If he decided to go along with it once she told him that, then…

Right on. What's "below the belt" is this nonsense of how she did care about him. It's a forceful admonition from her, which she offers a lot of evidence for. Total crap. Women and men both need to stop doing this to each other. She should say instead that she didn't care about him at all and that it was a…

Thank you for such a well-thought out reply to my Bachelorette ramblings! I agree with you 100% It is quite distressing to see Nick painted as the villain when a girl in his position would receive sympathy. This whole you-go-girl attitude is disappointing. Reality Steve took the same position and while I usually like…

What he actually said was "Knowing how much I loved you, if you didn't love me, why would you make love with me?" I think that's quite different from asking why she had sex with him without loving him — he's saying she wasn't considerate of his feelings when she had sex with him, knowing he would end up hurt. That may…

But what about when you're making it out of nothing at all?

I agree about Josh. Folks were mad at Nick for asking why she made love with him (because in his eyes that's what it was - shoot him for having feelings w/sex) yet Josh comes out there talking about trying to get her pregnant. I also didn't like the way he said 'make her my wife.' I don't like that everything was…

I could've been clearer, I suppose. I think a lot of the ethics here depend on how well-matched people are. If sex isn't a big deal to you or your partner, have at it. But if sex is a big deal to one partner and not the other, then it gets complicated and I think people have a greater responsibility.

I seriously can't stand it when women think that other women getting away with horrible behavior men usually get away with is somehow ~empowering. Asshole behavior is asshole behavior and knows no gender.

I fucking hate that this sweet little cat is dragged out to events constantly. Fucking. Hate. It.

100%. HUMAN decency. Would have been nice if the wonderful Kate Dries had pointed out that if Andi had been upfront and straight forward PRIOR to sleeping with him, she actually wouldn't need to defend/explain herself. The fact that this article refers to Andi as the "game master," so to speak, is really ridiculous…

That pisses me off too. Because he's a guy he's creepy and a pussy. "Omg, man up, get over it!" If this was a girl everyone would be super offended. Jake Pavelka got tons of shit for sleeping with three women on his season when we all knew he was picking Vienna. We shouldn't support bullshit because a woman did it.…

No, no, no! I love lil Grumpy Cat as much as the next person, but her being constantly trotted around to all of these public appearances is tantamount to abuse. Seriously, I can't imagine she enjoys all of that rigamarole and any cat I've ever known absolutely hates, hates, hates with a passion traveling. I love…

Exactly, had the tables turned, Andi would have been the guy that took advantage of the situation. I'm applying the same logic here.

...and sex is not just meaningful to girls

Actually, yes, you do owe a chat to someone you used and led on. You don't have to love them back but how about you don't play with their feelings and make them believe things that are not true? Common decency, folks! All that matters in this world is how you treat people.

It's funny because the person we SHOULD be commending is Nick, who laid his pride down and admitted he was hurt and someone who DOES value sex as not something just physical but emotional as well. And once again, if this was a woman confronting a Bachelor (hmm, much like one did with Juan Pablo which Jezebel gladly…

I agree and disagree with this because I think Nick came off sensitive and invested more than he did slut shamey. Other commenters are saying how if the roles were reversed, it would come off as a notch in the belt scenario and I agree with that. Between the signals Andi was sending him and what I imagine the…

"First of all, I think that's kind of below the belt. That's something that should be private," she said, before explaining that she felt what they had was real.

What a person showing too much emotions and and clearly not being in control of them seems like something a sociopaths does?