So is this option only software or is there an additional hardware element which is included with the vehicle when you select the option (thats not normally included with their vehicles off the line)? I only ask because tesla has made it clear there are OTA options that can be added and taken away. Why give them the…

GX, LR4 seem to be the obvious choices. I just got a CPO xc90 r design and I love it. That being said, It can go off roads but not off road. I dearly miss that from my grand cherokee overland - where I had the great mix of lux/ comfortable DD and then could go further off the beaten path. Come to think of it, GC isnt…

Wonder why the grille was left chrome while the other trim elements are blacked out. 

Drove one of these when my Grand Cherokee was in the shop a few years ago. I was pleasantly surprised by how much room this thing had. Bit of pep in it too but the transmission could have been paired better. Felt like I had a grown up power wheels Jeep. Who knows, maybe I was in a trance because my dealer finally…

Thats just sad. Like, these places should be starting in the positive column, giving you reasons to come back and service your car. Not at zero.

It is. I was told at one that I would need to own a viper to get a guaranteed free loaner. The guy with the 80k SRT GC next to me had a lot to say about that one. 

BMW, MB, LR, GMC etc do this with their entry level vehicles. It’s a step in the right direction but still quite an eye roll that this model is now forcing the hand to create a better dealer experience. Many Jeep dealers can’t give a quality service experience for a vehicle in the 50k range. Now they’re just getting a…

I’ve said it on here a ton but Jeep (and its siblings/cousins) need to work on delivering a stronger service experience. They need to incentivise their network to support a more costly product and the experience expected with the price tag.

2020 changed people lol

Never knew that. Thanks for the info.

Dont hate it! Great call. 

If they hadn’t had the Grand Wagoneer all tee’d up I’d say just call the Cherokee the Wagoneer and the GC the Grand Wagoneer. Revive the Commander for the Grand Wagoneer. All though i’m not sure Commander checks the opulence box they’re aiming for to squeeze an extra 20k +out of people.

Test drove a GT2 a while back when I was treading in my Grand Cherokee as I wanted to see if it would turn me away from SUV’s. The dealership experience is what blew it for me. They were more difficult than my Jeep dealer and that’s saying something.

Sheesh, just a quick look at that twitter feed and it’s just TSLA fangirling. These people are insufferable.

Went down a deep farming equipment rabbit hole last week doing that. TBH pretty facinating.

Always amazes me the people who will tape a tail light clear AND red to mask the broken light. A lot of them dont look half bad by me. 

First winter with the Xc90 and first winter with snow tires. Not bad. I do miss the Wk2 though. Just felt bulkier in the snow and I enjoyed having more 4x4 options to toy with. Aside from gov contractors who cant plow lanes for shit, we’re fine up here in the tristate. 

Well said, No matter how much time I spend in a newer MB I will always feel slightly meh about the whole experience. Prob because I hate the seat adjustment buttons.

Am I the only one here who doesn’t synonymize “slightly cheaper” with “more affordable”? That aside, it looks solid and it’s great to see more alternatives come to market. Looking forward to the “slightly cheaper” and much “more affordable” version of this one.

Stupid question probably but why not dam the ends, pump out the water and then “dry” dredge?