The XF has aged pretty well if you ask me. Newer ones looks incredibly better than the early ones but they’ve been tasteful upgrades that take it up a notch. Glad they moved away from the weed grinder shifter finally.

TBH I feel like they embraced a “fancier Accord” and that’s ok. The Accord looks pretty solid and I always find myself checking out the sportier looking ones. Problem is, there’s a lot of people like me who say that and would likely never buy one. Maybe the Acura will grab some of them?

Does anyone know which trim or package the headlining photo has? Ive been digging around here and there and love the white accents but can’t figure out which trim its tied to.

Rather than come up with some jargon that the Caddy Hummer marketers (who were just relocated from NYC) would approve of, I will just flat out say this is ridiculously dumb. But the fact that im commententing proves that their team “cultivated discourse about the sub-brand”. Off to reddit I go to have a fun convo…

Volvo guy seems like a person who has never purchased a car before.

Lol I think it is (knocks on wood). If you asked the loaner dept at the Jeep dealer they may say otherwise.

Funny story, when my GC shit the bed due to a warranty issue, they gave me a 200c which blew a tire. I then got a dart, which blew its tire. When I got back there I told them I wasn’t leaving until they have me a truck. BTW both occurrences happened after hitting a minimal dip in the road at below speed (street speed).…

I hear you. I’m in my early 30's and was always the car Czar in the family who suggested models, took test drives and then also brought cars into service for my fam. I could literally rattle off every car we’ve had and the service experience associated with it and how their treatment of me or my family broke the…

I Still see the original Tiguan here and there and find it to be a really nice rig and especially in the sports trim. TBH I feel like they could have easily kept the Touareg and introduced the Atlas as a bigger option. I get it though, marketers these days are like “ they bought the Tiguan but their family is bigger…

Honestly, I dont get why some people here are getting so offended about this comment. I’m all for discourse, but not for trolling.

Not. A. Chance. I’ve said this often on this site and I’ll say it again. Jeep/FCA dealers cant support the product. Most experiences in the greater Northern NJ/NYC/LI area are abysmal. They simply don’t know how to provide a higher-end service and FCA hasnt demanded them too which is sad. Honestly, I dont get why they…

Well said. Should have should brought back the Commander namesake statewise. Honestly, The original was kinda corky but had a oddly endearing way to it. 

They were supposed to have the actual GW by now so find it funny this is still only a concept. I always thought it was a joke they said they would want a proper LR competitor, Im actually surprised they were serious. That being said, CP for now.

I wouldn’t equate intelligence to wanting a accessorized car but I get your point. Some people want appliances with wheels, others want something more personalized. The upcharge on those however are a fool’s errand to finance. That being said, these terms are getting wild.

You had me at “Jeep training their Dealerships”. The amount of incompetence I met at most CJDR dealers in the NYC/Northern NJ area is honestly mind boggling. I wish them luck when they try to pitch that a Wagoneer will rival a Land Rover (as it was originally internally pitched). Biggest reason why I traded my GC in…

Imagine if GM said fuck it and brought back Pontiac/ Trans Am to be the cool electric roadster(s) and used this as a intro. They’re doing it with Hummer already and have the rights. Why let it go (again)? Ford was in the TKR show and they had a GTR Mustang in the Second resurgence. If I was GM i’d make a push. Not…

I will say, I dig the matte accents instead of the chrome. My friend got an M3 and from different angles they look silver/ bronzeish. 

Very well said. Im in the same position. It served its purpose and maybe I’ll hit restart one day, who knows.

Not surprised. Honestly, this thing looks pretty effin solid in its Trailhawk trim. They nailed that one from the beginning. But they got greedy. They should have kept it simple and done easy trims up to that. The price point on the overland didn’t make sense.

Just got rid of my 2014 Hemi and I know I will definitely be going back and grabbing a 2020/2021 down the road. Ample towing and great pep. Maybe I’ll go SRT if im feeling dumb haha.