Just covering my bases so no one yells at me.

Full disclosure - I think these are pretty sweet cars, I love what Elon is doing to the industry and Id like to have something - a tesla or a vehicle impacted by its design some day.

Imagine if constituents in a given geographic area were sent relevant push notifications about all voting related matters.

In my head: That street looks familiar.

I hear ya. Thats a fair point. Ive got a ‘14 Overland thats had some issues, and while they’ve been addressed, im still a bit slighted. Im in Northern NJ and I’m surrounded by dealers. Have had great times with one but cant always get an appointment.

If only. Part of my says ‘get one the minute you can justify more than one vehicle in the stable’ the other half of me is scared to buy anything from CJDR that’s > $50,000 cause their service experience is still awful.

So what you’re saying is I should get rid of my WK2 Grand Cherokee and maybe go buy a CPO Cayenne? Hmm.

And your thoughts on the shifter re-design then...

So, assuming gated shifters for ‘11-’13 were temp with a substantial improvement slated for ‘14+, that gives even more time for R&D. Granted im only a consumer here, but when you shift from D to R or P to R it can be extremely frustrating. Ergonomics are on point but anyone (and im reverencing jeep forums) who says…

Have you had the opportunity to drive a 14-15 wk2?

No one here can actually understand the issue until they have driven this jeep for more than a week. It goes well beyond brain-dead drivers who exit their car when it’s not in park. That’s another issue and those people will inevitably come face to face with natural selection.

You can ADD chrome? What is this, 2004? Might as well get a STRUT grille while you’re at it! Ugh. I wish I could delete chrome from my jeep. What a dumb fad.

This is a great write-up. Been a Volvo fan for a while since they were family staples growing up..Scouted the S60R when I was younger because my dad wanted a new car (that I hope would get handed down to me when I could drive), wishful thinking I guess.

We should look past the POS and to service as well. If anything I hope , just maybe, that manufacturers will be more proactive than reactive when it comes to their dealerships’ shops. BMW has been transforming the way they approach the service experience to a point where old beaters and new lease cars almost have the…

You really think 50? Wasnt the last one slotted between a limited and an overland? Regardless, Jeep can sell parts bin specials for a fuck-you amount of money any day of the week and us morons keep buying them. I just wish the profits went back into the build quality.

I wish Caddy sent them a new grille with the updated emblem. OR a grille that is a giant version of the updated emblem.

Wanted the last gen so bad. Ended up getting a 2014 overland. I dig those wheels and tires. Maybe thats the next upgrade!

Considering Jeep manages a way to prostitute color changes on the Wrangler, I dont understand how a BBQ couldnt be held and tactics could be exchanged.

No one seems to be acknowledging that in this two-lane stretch there is an on ramp feeding the right lane.

While I wouldn’t call the sprinter “mini” it has really taken a market share. At least in terms of custom use/private car. The fact is that there hasnt been a market defined for one. Of the existing vans, you can trim them out to a solid extent.