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That’s an important detail, thanks for sharing. The news articles I read made it sound like it was confirmed she was scamming. And either way, I think OF bears more responsibility than is being reported. I suspect they probably planned to make these changes anyway and she just gave them a convenient excuse.

Where did I ask anyone to give her a pass? She pulled a scam, got caught, and should be made to give the money back and apologize. I said that upfront. But that won’t fix the bigger problem of venture capitalists willing to throw the workers who made them rich under the bus during a pandemic to protect their profit

I should make it clear I’m not criticizing the angry sex workers here, but the company for letting her be the scapegoat when they were likely to pass these regulations anyway at the expense of workers who made them a fortune, and should just admit that. Tumblr, Paypal and other platforms have done the same thing

That we can agree on. But that still means the site is vulnerable to any celebrity or influencer looking for a quick cash payout to do the same thing. All it takes is one person with a large following to produce content users dislike (or feel ripped off by) for any reason to trigger this issue. These regulations were

That’s literally my point though - that the pandemic, the lack of support from leaders and the financial vulnerability it’s put people in, is the real villain here. Of course they have every right to be mad at her for their direct income loss (I didn’t say they didn’t), but she didn’t “ruin” the business model; OF

Wow, we’re getting two identical stories on this, huh?

Yuck! I’ve never watched her show and didn’t follow her cancellation drama, but the Mariah clip is hard to watch. She tries to politely deflect multiple times, but Ellen keeps pushing - and her motivation is so transparent, to get an exclusive “Mariah pregnancy announcement” on her show to boost her ratings. No regard

Your “at best” scenario is also rape. Just say rape.

Get the old rusty bloodstained GOP voter repression machine cranked up so only these white idiots get to vote!

VERY telling. One thing that dusty misogynistic black men and dusty misogynistic white men have in common is shitting all over black women. My mentions are always full of a rainbow coalition of shitty men any time I post anything pro-black women. Refusing to engage with their identical dumb talking points and dismissin

Yeah, it’s totally fine to disagree on the internet. But even if he was hurt by her comment or found it inaccurate, he lost ANY moral high ground when he chose to obsessively harass her for weeks rather than fact checking, blocking and moving on like a sane person. Same with the Carnell situation. I don’t particularly

That said, there’s a bit of “beggars can’t be choosers” here. Take all the allies you can get, because the ruling minority doesn’t give a shit about purity testing and will stomp all of us all the same.

You have to admit threatening to call the police on people who don’t like your nonprofit is a pretty white feminist move though.

the typical white feminist response that is defensively sticking up for one’s own intentions.

Yeah, I run a 501(c)(3) nonprofit and that’s not how any of this works. And can you imagine starting a nonprofit with the explicit mission of combatting police brutality, and then threatening people who criticize it with carceral violence? That’s a Final Karen Boss move right there.

Is it bad my first thought was some lady dildo’d her butt in all 16 train stations and wanted the world to know?

We are in agreement on all of this.

I’ve been studying the alt right since long before they entered mainstream consciousness in 2016. I’m a Black person in America; it’s a matter of survival to know what my enemies are up to. It’s presumptuous to assume people with different opinions on a topic know less about it than you. And we can agree to disagree

Uh, neither. We just don’t need to give bigots platforms beyond the ones they already have. But cool to know you equate the danger level posed by violent white supremacist sects with fictitious video games and comic books.

Milo and Spencer went away after they were deplatformed from social media after Charlottesville in 2017. People stopped giving them outlets to spread their hateful beliefs until they had nothing but Gab, Telegram and other fringe platforms left. Deplatforming bigots works; interviewing them and writing long articles