Is Audi moving to the “all the even numbers are EV’s” scheme? Or was that BMW or maybe both of them? The German lux brands naming schemes are so damn confusing and they change them so often it is insane.

The last generation of 500e is out there and they are dirt cheap. I can only find ‘17-’19 MY’s, so maybe that was the only years offered here and they range from $5k to $13k with reasonable mileage on them. This new one will be the same, even if it is a better version of the last generation. 

Ahh got ya. That is unfortunately a problem not of their own doing per se. But with MPG standards, they have to do some of that, just as all OEM’s have. I have an old ass Hybrid Highlander with 295k miles and the hybrid system is still OK, so I’m not too worried about that and I think they will get the rest of it…

Kind of off topic, but does anyone have any other car auction sites they can point me to other than BAT or Cars and Bids? Looking to buy something, but not sure what and BAT just gets priced up way to fast. CnB’s seems better on prices (AKA, not as crazy) but still a lot of eyes which lead to higher prices.

Dealers will be fine, the finance companies however, they will have some big financial lumps to take. I guess most of them will be captive finance arms, so not as big a deal though. 

I am not sure I follow how BOF SUV’s and trucks will be a reliability issue?

Yep, that is 100% true.

Haha, that is true!

Yep, it is going to be a mess when all these EV leases start to come back and are worth a decent amount less than what they are supposed to be.

From the EV leases I have looked at it is a real combo deal. Generous cash on the hood plus a generous residual to get the lease payment as low as possible. I haven’t looked at all of them, but it looks like a lot of these residuals are high and then finance companies are going to have cars on their books worth…

Got ya. So $7,500 from Fed, $5,000 from CO and then about $4,500 from OEM/dealer gets a $34k car down to $17k and a $0/$0 payment/down lease.

What is the Colorado EV incentive? Fed is $7,500, so add that and whatever it is in CO and then some cash on the hood plus a generous helping of inflated residual and I guess you can get down to $0.

Yea, there is no way these things are worth anywhere near $17k in 2 years and 3 months.

I wonder if anything made by Toyota is reliable? 

I think the 350 only has them in the rear for this generation, but I agree. If not replaced in the past couple of years I would want to see it after it has sat for a couple of days.

Ahh, great insight. I have a cig adapter (or are they “accessory” plugs now to be PC?) in the trunk of my Highlander that I can run it from. Perfect, thanks man!

So now I can liken my ‘07 Highlander Hybrid to a super car wince they both have an ICE and electric drive with no mechanical integration. I always thought my Highlander was a super car, but now I KNOW it is.

Is this yours? if so, how did you run power? I kind of want to do this, but was running into and issue in my head on running power in a good way.

This just in, study from Pro EV entity is Pro EV! More news at 10. Not saying it isn’t untrue to some extent. But I bet there were some screening questions where some people “didn’t qualify” for this study.

I am not sure this is going to go well for Dodge at all. Looks like Taveres really jammed the knife in and twisted it with this one.