Yep, that is my exact thought. And even with EV personal vehicles being a thing, most of the world’s electricity production is still fossil fuels. 6 years is BEYOND a pipe dream, it is like a heroin induced delirium termons on Jupiter dream.

I get that part, but world power generation is still majority fossil fuels along with pretty much everything that gets things places like boats, trains, planes and personal vehicles. Ending fossil fuel usage in 6 years is just not possible. 

“While crumbling infrastructure is mostly to blame for the issues Americans have with rail crossings...”

They said their actions were to highlight the need for an “emergency treaty to end fossil fuels by 2030.”

I took my 8 month pregnant wife there on a warm June day, she was not impressed. But it is a fun memory, we also figured out that the A/C in our car wasn’t working on that trip...

They serve an OK purpose, but in ‘20 and ‘21 they were flat out abused for industries and companies they weren’t meant for.

Yep, $1bn is a lot, but not enough. That was kind of the goal of the asset light production though. You can go look at Lucid and Rivian’s financials to see how much money it takes to create and sell a small amount of cars. 

Bz4X sales were up 647% because in April Toyota released a lease incentive worth $25k+ in all ZEV state regions. The more interesting part would be, are the OEM’s actually making money with this sales upticks or are they just incentivizing these to hell to help clear the EV’s out?

I have been saying this for years, but no one listens!!!

My buddy got a jail time ticket in college but they let him off without serving due to being an out of state college student. Luckily for work, I am mostly in PA, MD and WV. But once in a while I need to traverse VA to get to WV, so I have my system for not going to jail. 

That may be the case, I still think these are more of a gamble than a lot of other cars, even from defunct OEM’s.

A terrible looking one, but one none the less. 

It very much depends on the client. I would add that their ad platform kind of sucks too. We use it once in a while for event type advertising for smaller clients, but anything for a bigger brand or real product advertising, we stay away.

I guess, just have seen a lot of comments specifically about Ocean’s that have serious issues with no help. Remember, these cars weren’t really ready to start with. So now, any issues could become terminal.

I would never buy one, so my opinion quite literally does not matter. But... that is a vehicle and that is about where my positive thoughts end. The rest of my thoughts about everything else about this X3 are not positive.

I think the most common way is to file Ch. 11 and then move to Ch. 7 when it doesn’t work. I think “technically” filing Ch. 7 right out of the gate can lead to investor lawsuits since it can be looked at as not having the shareholders best interests at heart, even if a Ch. 11 reorg probably won’t work. 

They are putting ALOT and I mean ALOT of value on their IP with assets valued at $500mm to $1bn.

Fisker kneecapped its own economic feasibility when it severely discounted its vehicles. The Ocean was a $50-$70k vehicle. Let’s use funny math and say that selling those had a 20% gross profit, ie. selling a $50k Ocean actually cost them $40k to build it.

Yea, but with a Fisker, you never know when you go to drive it if it will actually work. There seem to be a lot of, “help! My Ocean is a brick” comments/stories on the internet. 

You mean into Elon’s house?