Yea, you are correct.

I know Toyota had some 0% on ‘23 Bz4X, but I think it was only in regions that had a ZEV state. They also had an insane lease deal, but same regional issue.

So, there is some truth and some not so truthful stuff in here. He is “valued” as the richest person or one of, in the world. But I would bet he doesn’t actually have a ton of money (or as much as one would expect) and this package is almost all options. I would bet this is more about getting more voting control over…

To be fair, and I am not a Tesla or Elon fan. The “package” was worth $55bn at one point. It no longer is, and it isn’t a cash payment, mostly stock options. So yes it would still be one of, if not the largest ever payment package ever, but it isn’t quite what everyone seems to think it is.

Nothing beats a nice V12 (or V10) howl, what a lovely noise. 

Oh, I completely agree that it is feasible, and I give it more than a 0% chance, but it would just be insane if it were true and it happened.

Yea, some others pointed that out. From what I can find, it is really only EV’s that have 0% apr deals. Most others are 1.9% or higher, but I didn’t look that hard and most traditional OEM’s have their incentives done regionally, so what I see, might not be what someone else sees.

If you only judge a car on 0-60 times of course EV’s are hard to beat. But there are a lot of other things that go into what makes a car enjoyable and exciting. Plus, none of these cars on this list would ever be described as “exciting”, at least IMO.

Honestly, I agree with you. But I am all in on autonomous highway driving. I drive a decent amount for work and a lot of that is super boring highway driving. The rest, I am good for. 

While I don’t actually think they have two sets of books. It would be absolutely insane if they did. That would make the Enron fiasco seem like child’s play.

Yea, I saw 0% offers on mostly EV’s right now. Everything else is 1.9% or higher for the most part.

Yea, I looked around and saw a few, mostly on other EV’s. Then some 1.9% and above rates on other non-EV’s.

Me neither, but just interesting to see.

Yea, this will keep selling price stable. They just lose out or lose more on interest money. 

Yea, that would be a blessing, not a curse.

The also just announced or have put out 0.99% APR financing for 48, 60 and 72 month loans. That has to hurt a bit since rates are really closer to 5%+ and most other OEM’s are in the 3-4% incentivized rate area on some offers.  

Although I agree with you, if you look at Rivian and Lucid’s gross profits, they are actually losing money on each sale. I am sure there is some of that on Ford’s end, but we don’t know the exact numbers. Rivian and Lucid both had gross profits in the negative $1.3 - 2bn range and that is just revenue minus cost of…

Yea, that makes sense.

Yea, I work in the dealer realm, so it was my assumption going in, but verified it. The one interesting thing is that some of their other dealers don’t have the full used inventory listed. I am assuming that is due to OEM franchise rules and what they can list on their sites. I am betting that Mitsu doesn’t really…

Haha, yep. I was going to add that I have seen tons of articles or mentions of other car companies laying off way fewer people. But kind of figured this person didn’t really care about facts.