A normal sport coupe when you want one, an angry sports car when you don’t. Way easier to drive fast than most RWD cars on narrow tires. Audi RS5 is great all-around. The interior is nice as the V8 screams.

Well this discussion is specifically about which new cars are available as manual and RWD so even if you only afford the very cheapest new cars (which are what? like $17k?) then you could get a $25k car when it’s only a few years old instead.

The idea and the logic invoked is certainly ambiguous and complicated.

Well electric steering racks are getting better with every generation. Also the new 5 series chassis is supposed to be way sharper than the old one.

It’s a mix of the steam-of-consciousness and the over-zealous-headline styles.

Well some of those cars start at around $25k new and many would argue that those are the most fun.

I know that buying new sucks. Out of all the cars I’ve had, all of them were used or CPO with one exception because I got a super good lease rate.

BMW 230i, BMW 240i, BMW 330i, BMW 340i, BMW 430i, BMW 440i, M2, M3, M4, Porsche Boxster, Porsche Cayman, Porsche 911 (Base, S, or GT3 soon), Jaguar F-Type S, Ford Mustang (Turbo or V8), Dodge Challenger (V6, V8, SRT, or Hellcat), Chevy Camaro (Turbo, V6, or V8), Chevy Corvette, Chevy SS, Nissan 370Z, Subaru BRZ/Toyota…

People where saying the same thing 30-40 years ago when US-Japanese-European badge engineering was in full swing but I don’t think we’re any closer to that then before. It’s not hard to list all of the examples of badge/engineering and platform/engine sharing across companies at least for mass market cars in the US.…

It’s not that complicated. You have two new cars in that case.

I’d say that if you change the engine/transmission/entire drivetrain and you put in entirely new suspension then it’s a new car, regardless of whether the frame is the same.

The Ferrari F12 Berlinetta is really nice (just the regular one, not that tdf one). I also like the 488 Spider if it has the carbon bits for the side vent slats and front grille stales.

The 488's design is cohesive while the J50 looks like each part of it was done by a different designer. The profile of the side doesn’t match the front and neither match the back.

I’ve seen GTVs going for $40k to $60k in perfect condition.

You know, it would be cool and convenient to have a universal keyless entry/keyless go remote that works for all of my cars and this sounds easy to program so...

What do they use to drop you off at the rental place? Do they pay for decent car or just a basic rental? I don’t know why I find this so intriguing.

My local Ferrari dealer uses a couple Fiat 500L’s as their only dealer loaners.

This is the type of thinking that got us into the 2009 financial crisis in the first place.

What makes you say that? Their financial statements say that they had a net loss of $13 billion in 2006, $3 billion in 2007, and $14 billion in 2009.