At this point, yes. But then, earlier she had rejected her parents as role models and chose Pastor Tim. One of the reasons she switched to them is that she realized that the stuff she thought was so great about Pastor Tim was even more true of her parents, ironically.

Yeah…I mean, I do think that teenagers are not adults am in favor of taking that in consideration where it's relevant. Sometimes it is a factor.

I believe it's the opposite—he's not allowed to have his Canadian citizenship back.

And even with that, Patty Hearst was living in the US in the 70s, In that time and place it made perfect sense for the main question to be whether she was "in on it" or just being forced to do it. Nobody would question whether it was okay for her to go along and do what her captors said (especially when she wasn't…

Most kids Henry's age don't get to live their dream, though. If he doesn't get into the school he won't get it either.

It does seem really weird to me to not see Pastor Tim as manipulative. His whole job is about trying to bring people to Christ. Paige walked into his church and walked out with a Bible and eagerly listened to him explain all his beliefs and why if everyone believed the same things they'd be happy and the world would…

Yes, I remember all of this but it doesn't contradict anything I said.

She's 16. But I think OK was referring to the moment she became really into the church, which was when she was 14. Those were the beliefs she was supposed to be giving up.

Well, she's giving up Pastor Tim's beliefs. If P&E brainwashed and manipulated her he pretty much did too. I think Paige has a way to go before she truly figures out her own beliefs.

Yes! Totally agree. And in this case on top of all the mental focus and time they are spending at their jobs, there's a clear line that has to be crossed in order to know them at all. Henry either doesn't feel like he knows his parents or thinks he knows them but is wrong. Or feels maybe unconsciously that they're not…

I guess to me it just doesn't seem all that weird—and the weirdness there is seems to come from the situation and Henry as much as the parents.. Parents and children misunderstand each other a lot. They can just try, but sometimes it's not going to work. Especially when kids glom onto new ideas like fancy boarding…

Yeah, they've never said either way, but it makes a lot more sense if he's older. He's clearly not concerned about actually getting his h.s. degree and he said he just disappeared on his foster family, but he called them. If he was a kid they'd be searching for him as a runaway. If he's an adult he could leave and…

Personally, I think Henry could adjust just fine too. Not that he wouldn't hate having to do it, but I don't think it would be hopeless. Henry seems pretty good at finding things he likes and adjusting himself to different people.

During this ep I found myself thinking how in Russian movies there's always these raucous, happy dinner scenes where everybody's eating and laughing and talking. On this show it's like all Russian dinners are quiet and tense.

Nothing. Still seeing her.

I know you have a lot of company, but it's all always been based on Tuan saying things that sound like Elizabeth probably sounded at the same age rather than Tuan actually doing anything unstable at all and I'm pushing back on it. His anger is all perfectly in line with his mission: thinks Pasha is weak, thinks…

You keep saying he's unstable and dangerous and a loose canon but all he's ever been on the show is a very cold-blooded agent. I don't see him being uniquely out of control or unstable or dangerous compared to some other agents he's seen. As far as he's concerned they're the ones who are being those things.

And you're suggesting that what Tuan did here would have been avoided if they were asking about his needs? Because I don't see it. He's an agent, possibly in his 20s, and his pov is pretty much the same as Elizabeth's at the same age. They had a discussion about the case and he came up with a plan himself that is…

I don't honestly see why they would see it as so manifestly necessary. Because he said he wanted them at the house more? They seem to have done that. Because he went off to call his brother? That doesn't seem like it grew out of anything they were or weren't doing. He doesn't seem like he's done anything that would…

I got the connection between the two, but that's different than a fake out. Maybe it's just me, but I thought it was clear from the beginning exactly what she was doing. She was dressed in her workout clothes, she pulled out a special bag of laundry that would obviously never be heavy enough to be a counterweight for…