Paige was a big snoop in seasons 1 and 2. That's how all this started, that she was snooping on her parents big time. Of course with Pastor Tim she's got a different reason for it, but they told her not to do it also.

I don't think we can compare Philip and Elizabeth to other couples in this case. What other couples? They're not renewing their vows here, they're getting married for the first time.

And funny too that while Paige seemed like she wasn't drawn to capitalism anyway, since she loved Pastor Tim's church, that was still moving in the opposite direction of P&E.

Totally agree. And I do love the comparison to Martha's wedding, which had all the "correct" trappings but was basically a lie. The same wedding where Elizabeth wondered what it would be like to say the vows with Philip.

OMG, OMG, I forgot I wanted to specifically ask you about that because I can't tell but when it came out of his mouth it sounded like he nailed it and I was thrilled to hear it. Because I always long for scenes where they do just speak Russian and of course we never get them because without dubbing it wouldn't sound…

I've heard him talk in interviews and have a Russian accent. That's what I was referring to, that IRL he had not developed a native English-speaker accent. Other actors on the show (Arkady and Nina) have put on their accents for the role and barely have one when they speak IRL.

Yes, I don't trust at all that she'd have the "safe" spying life that Elizabeth imagines for her either. But plenty of their assets do work like that—it's not like we've seen any of those other agents doing jobs like Philip and Elizabeth. So we don't know. But I think it's safe to say that Paige is not going into the…

IT'S REALLY HARD!!! :-)

Seems like if he was going to lose the accent he should have lost it by now!

Yes.

Just to be clear, I was talking about how I thought that would come across to Paige, not necessarily how PT himself would see it. I agree that when he's writing it in the diary he would see himself as a Pastor with genuine concern for her soul and trying to do what's right. He's maybe casting her more as the victim so…

Yes, I get why Tim himself said what he did—I totally see why he'd see it as better to be encouraging than to say anything like he did in the diary. (And let's remember that what he said in that moment in his diary isn't necessarily the whole of how he feels all the time.)

Yes, it's good to remember here that Tuan simply gave those kids the idea to do this, and they didn't even realize he'd been the one who gave it to them. It's perfectly ordinary teenagers that chose to put dog shit in a lonely boy's locker to torment him.

Honestly, I don't think it's lack of attention. I mean, he does get far less attention, but that's also because he's always been independent in part. His whole time on the show has been a series of him getting interested in different things and being obsessed with them and then moving on to something else. I think…

I don't think Elizabeth is more committed than ever. She's openly glum about assignments now. When push comes to shove she doesn't want to do to Paige what was done to her. I think she's *trying* to work through it by being more gung-ho than ever, but she's not managing it. She was even the first person to blow off…

Agreed about their lying and reeling her in, but it's bad enough to make her someone who'd be committing treason. Paige isn't meant to be killing anyone or having sex with multitudes and she will certainly never have any sex training. She's not an Illegal. She's supposed to be like the many other people they've worked…

Yes, Paige running around doing the stuff they do would toss out her value. They want her to be her actual self with the perfect background check, quietly working somewhere and not drawing any attention while she passes info.

I didn't think that spoke of love at all. I think she trusted him more than she'd let on, enough that he really was the first man she chose to have sex with when she was ready. But while I think she thought "you'll be a good father" was a nice thing to say, to Philip it probably sounded like a rejection. He was a stud.

I think he also wouldn't want to give up his position as the person who knows the family secret. If he blows it up he loses Paige and everything else too. He's tried to make himself family counselor in ways he wasn't before Paige told him the secret.

Elizabeth actually does have the added weight of her primary caregiver deliberately placing her in that situation. Her mother "didn't blink" before telling her to go and she seems to have spent her life convincing herself that this is the example she should be living up to because if she doubts it she'll have to…