Henry was very interested in the whole near-mugging story and could certainly back it up. He, too, noticed that there seemed to be more to it in terms of Paige taking it hard.

I suspect the training behind "rub your fingers" is going to come later—cause I'm interested to see what it's really about. Like, there must be a specific way to think and things to think about. I want to know what P&E think about if that's the case.

I do sometimes wonder if there was a change in Philip's feelings about Stan after Stan accused him of sleeping with Sandra. He obviously didn't want to make up with him (it was sort of paralleled to Paige not wanting to make nice with Pastor Tim) but he sucked it up and basically begged for forgiveness, calling…

I guess it depends on what they use it for? My computer at work is incredibly old but since it still does the things I use it for, it's still there. Lots of old computers here.

Those things don't really all revolve around Stan, though. In fact, a lot of them revolve around Martha, who was caught by Stan.

True, they had to drive backwards!

The first season literally ended with Stan shooting Elizabeth. I'd say that's more than getting in their way!

No, it's actually a good thing!

You need to meet more mothers of teenage daughters. They're out there. :-)

It doesn't need explaining. He's exactly where he always is, at church or at home with his wife and new baby.

Eh, I think there's a balance to be bad. There's nothing unhealthy about being able to use your head when it comes to things that could have terrible consequences. People suppress their emotions all the time as part of everyday life. Otherwise we'd all be toddlers. Paige confessed to Pastor Tim because she was…

I would hope he wouldn't have to be put two and two together. Illegals like Philip are very rare and Irina seemed to be one of them so you're a big danger to him!

Paige doesn't look very "we don't do that before marriage" to me when she's with Matthew. I think she was just embarrassed to have her mom talking about it and hasn't gone that far yet.

Seems to definitely happen in Paige's youth group. She mostly talks to Pastor Tim about her parents and she talks about her friends' parents having affairs. The girl who first brought her into Youth Group specifically got her interested in it as a place where they understood how hard parents are. So yeah, I think…

"Paige poisoned her relationship to Pastor Tim by informing him about her parents. Once that damage was done, the nature of their relationship fundamentally changed."

But she's not taking responsibility for their choices, she's keeping her life intact. Paige does not want her parents arrested. When she told Pastor Tim she risked doing that. Now they all have to keep an eye on him.

They're not even banning her from seeing Matthew. They're allowing themselves to be put at more risk so that Paige can be made happy. They do respect her as her own person—Philip is able to do that more than Elizabeth, but even Elizabeth has explicitly chosen to probably do the opposite thing her own mother would have…

She didn't, imo, teach her to cut herself off emotionally from anyone she could have a normal relationship with. She taught her how to step back and not get carried away with emotion in a way that would be dangerous for her. She told her that being emotionally attached was natural and expected. This is something Paige…

I disagree. She's doing both. She doesn't judge Paige for having sex, she spoke to her sensitively about how sex might make her feel and how that's important. She really does respect Paige's decision to have sex—the line isn't delivered as Elizabeth being dismissive or cold about it. Elizabeth does care what goes on…

I think you're greatly exaggerating the meaning of Elizabeth's line there. She's not expressing indifference to Paige and her feelings, she's respecting Paige's choice to have sex if that's what she wants.