I also disagree with Myles' take on the event that occurred. But, my disagreement comes from the statement that "it seems unimaginable that he would have reacted the same way if Piper had attacked him". Replace Poussey with Piper, and Crazy-Eyes with Lolly (or Kukido) and the situation could have easily had the same…

No, not at all. It's perfectly fine for black people to talk about issues without white people. What I'm saying applies just as much to a conversation between two people of the same race.

Yes, I thought that while she was protecting him from probably being yelled at (not attacked imo) and getting his feelings hurt, there was also just the common sense that what he was doing was inappropriate. The women in there wouldn't be open to listening to him for good reason. He was going to them for absolution…

But that that implies that a think piece written about this issue, if written by a black writer, is just an outlet of emotion that shouldn't be taken seriously as an argument. How can anyone have a discussion if all that matters is who's doing the talking? The reason black voices have more credibility on these issues…

But how can she cause that change within herself when it's probably something she was born with? Isn't that like telling Lolly she needed to change within herself to stop hearing voices? Suzanne's behavior isn't a character flaw, it's a mental condition.

I don't think Suzanne is capable of addressing the problems and changing. Her family seems to have been trying to help her address them her whole life, but it's an actual mental condition, not something that can be controlled through therapy. In fact, I think part of her breakdown and repetition of "I did a bad thing"…

Trevor Noah had an interesting story about this. He said when he started at The Daily Show they put out a call for writers/performers because he really wanted non-white ones. None applied. He thought, "Wow, maybe it's true that black people just don't like The Daily Show."

But there weren't other supporting characters in the background, just one person who was probably actually there but they didn't know each other.

I'm still not entirely sure what the purpose of Judy King was, other than maybe getting Nicky back, but whatever. Seeing her being smack in the middle of a near riot with her being thisclose to release and that terrified look was worth it.

My least favorite part of this finale: Poussey walking by Bayley in New York City. For an episode that embraces clear causality in exploring the aftermath of Poussey’s death, for them to suggest this was fated in some way rung false.

To be fair, if Poussey was a real person she wouldn't be seen as perfect at all. She's a criminal doing prison time.

Not lame—that would be ablest. (Couldn't resist)

Right, I think that's the main reason for the choice, or one of them. It's come up in dialogue too, with savvy prisoners telling others to look past the person in front of them and go to the top. It doesn't mean the person in front of them isn't responsible at all, but it's a symptom vs. problem. But sometimes when…

I don't think it's always treated as funny. The ep where Christophuh was actually revealed was pretty scary, as was his actual attack by her husband. Even the wedding seemed like a goofy happy ending (she marries a guy who's willing to enter into her kooky fantasies with her) but then starts to turn dark as she…

I think he might say that about an animal he was trying to control too. Or, like, the way you might respect Godzilla.

I think it is a spoiler, isn't it?

Is that the same as dealing? Basically I was just wondering if Poussey did pretty much what Baylee did in his flashback—went out with friends and was smoking weed, but she had enough that she was accused of dealing. Pure speculation without knowing any details about Poussey's crime that I remember.

Also, isn't there the potential for her to be portrayed as something completely different? I mean, she's in prison so she's done something wrong in her life. There's every reason for people to see her as attacking the guard and him killing her in self defensive. That she's not violent and never has been as far as we…

It's a bit like back in the 70s when All in the Family did a rape episode with Edith as the potential victim knowing that she countered every single argument about the victim deserving it.

That's what I thought too. I didn't take it as any direct comment on Garner, but more specifically tied to what was going on on the show. All the many decisions of the prison had created an atmosphere of danger for the inmates that didn't require one of the bad apples making a bad decision. We saw that happening…