Ever since this thread started, every drive I take turns into a parade of cars from this thread. It's actually been kind of eerie, like a constant stream of roadgoing mastodon ghosts.
Ever since this thread started, every drive I take turns into a parade of cars from this thread. It's actually been kind of eerie, like a constant stream of roadgoing mastodon ghosts.
Good answer indeed. Fox-body Mustangs and GM F-bodies from the same era are scarcer than they used to be but neither approaches the complete disappearance of the Daytona. Presumably the front wheel drive factor made it less desirable to the hoons, hot-rodders, racers and rednecks who are responsible for the survival…
My dad had an '84 4000S Quattro. Not that fast, but fun to drive and a BEAST in the snow, with locking rear and center diffs. Also the black 5 mph bumpers meant that a young hoon who outdrove his skills in the snow could get away with punting the neighbors' trash cart up the driveway without any harm to the car.
I still see that generation of Monte on a fairly regular basis. The previous, pre-2000, Lumina-based Monte seems to be completely extinct, though. Actually, almost everything Lumina-based is almost gone. '78-'88 G-body Monte Carlos seem much more common than their successors.
Four trends I notice reading the entire thread:
They're out there and not that difficult to find, but the sellers seem to want E46 M3 money for unmolested ones these days. Only way I'd consider that is for a grey-market example with the Euro engine.
That's unfortunate, because that front fascia is by far the best looking they ever had on a Fox-body.
And that is a sad thing. I know what they can do. There's a brick-red 1st-gen Eclipse GSX that regularly murders my Mustang at autocrosses. I've been idly browsing for a good AWD DSM since that started happening... the ones that are around are modded beyond recognition (and way out of any recognizable Solo class)…
Wanted one of these so bad before I learned why RWD is better (and why 1990s GM products are best avoided, generally speaking.)
TSi AWDs and Eclipse GSXs in decent condition seem to be completely unobtainium.
Random side note, the paint on that car (which was pretty common on higher-spec Hondas of that vintage) is one of the best factory finishes ever. I loved it so much I had my '93 Thunderbird SC painted in it when I had to have some body work done. That paint is a rare sight anymore but never fails to make my day when…
On an Italian V12, you play the drinking game BEFORE you start working on it.
NP, because V12 and Lamborghini for a five-digit price. If that argument doesn't convince you, I'm afraid we can't be friends.
/effort
If double-sided sticky tape is involved, just say no.
Got nibbled, it's a Crown Vic P71.
I tallied it up and... yeah, I've spent more time driving one of these than any car I actually owned. Probably explains why I have so little love for this perennial Jalop favorite.
And congratulations on being a responsible driver who never seeks thrills on the street and saves it for the track. You're an outlier. Unfortunately, there are plenty of people out there who aren't as responsible as you, and your family is going to be out there on the road with people going balls to the wall with…
Fatality rates? Yes, of course those are way down, no argument, and thank God. But the technologies we're talking about don't do a single solitary thing to make cars safer once the accident begins. Traction control, ABS, ESP, blind spot monitoring, parking assist, rear view cameras, lane monitoring, and the nine…