1. Its a Pony Car not a Muscle Car. Also those sales are still off of the mustangs 90s and early 2000s numbers, no one wants coups anymore.

Go ahead and jump all over me but this thing looks good. I really like the mean, evil looking grills cadillac is using these days. If anything this is a refreshing alternative to the offerings from Lexus, Mercedes, BMW and Audi.

yeah but if you look at it from the perspective of a disabled person who would need to convert it for their use I think it’s NP even w/the body damage, which is cheap money at a decent shop. Remember NPorCP is not whether it is personally a good price but objectively a good price to someone.

Who taught my aunt Doris how to Kinja?

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We didn’t do anything! but on the off chance that we DID do something, I had nothing to do with it.

The early Saturns were actually extremely good cars for their price point.

That Fleetwood actually has a LT1 V8 same as the 96 camaro and Impala SS, and its RWD. Northstar fleetwoods came after

Opinion rejected.

thats an A-body, which are amazing couches on wheels and get great mpg and if you can find the wagon version make perhaps the best road trip car evar

Nope not even close. Those things never die and probably had the best Econo engine (4 cylinder 1.9l Twin Cam) of all of GMs fleet and most still look good today as long as they didn’t get hit hard. They also took abuse. My 91 SL2 was rear ended HARD ( as in the trunk was 6 inches shorter after the accident) in 98 and…

Sit three of your friends in one, take the top down, find the nearest ATV trail, sing over the absence of the optional radio and try to tell me that this is not the funniest car in the world.

I love how people rip on the GMs of this era. They did exactly what they were designed for. They were cheap reliable transportation. Many of them still going strong with well over 200k.

Actually, it’s anything with a Takata airbag that’s actively trying to kill you. The GM J-bodies don’t use the infamous ignition switch, and even then as long as you don’t hang a ton of crap from it, it works pretty well.

They are putting it in the Camara but not the Camero. That will anger a lot of people in a few years on Craigslist.

I’d rather have an Aztek with the tent package.

The stripes can be had on the owners club site as someone now prints them...the wheels can be redone by a guy in Ohio to factory spec and there is a guy in Tennessee who specializes in rebuilding these engines and pulling the HP out that was locked away by ridiculous 70’s emissions regulations....all said and…

All in all I think we flat out don’t DESERVE Tesla in this conservative, backward state, and Snyder certainly hasn’t done a damn thing to invite business competition NOR diversity to the state.

I don’t think anyone on the coasts knows the difference between “Michigan” and “Detroit.” This is like the second time this week some Gawker writer claimed something happened in “Detroit” when it was actually on the other side of the state.

“This will be Tesla’s first manufacturing operation in Detroit.”

Grand Rapids is not Detroit. It is, however, one of the major sources of the money that controls the GOP political machine in Michigan, and that machine now controls Detroit....