Will it? Its not been exactly a long time since Kia stopped making piles of crap. OTOH I still see a whole ton of not only Odesseys but Accords, Civics, and other familiar Japanese brands that are 20+ years old running just fine down the freeway. Has Kia/Hyundai improved? Hell yeah they have. But they haven’t earned…

Its the same issue I have with a lot of Kia’s and Hyundai’s lineup. Yes, initially there’s some pleasing stuff going on there but at the end of the day it looks pretty generic and forgettable. Its like its a brand without an identity and instead the cars all look like some sort of familiar hodge-podge of styles…

Mine constantly had carb problems and also for some reason the exhaust ports would clog with carbon every 6 months even though I used exactly the right 2 cycle mix. I bought a used Honda Elite after that and that thing ran and ran and ran and I never did a thing to it.

Spoken like someone who doesn’t know what they’re talking about.

I used to own one. They will run forever as long as you’re willing to continually funnel money into fixing them. All the time.

Holy shit. They probably have more superchargers then we have here!

Yep... we mean doing that versus using a car that burns crude oil 100% of the time. What’s your point?

Jesus. It sure would be nice if my company somehow figured we too needed some Model X’s.

Why? Because I can’t tell the difference between this and the Atlas. They look damned near the same. Plus the US market is already saturated with crossovers anyway...

Its more than just updating the bikes and while yes- these are somewhat of a departure they still more or less look like the exact same kind of bikes they’ve always made. If they want to get serious they need to consider updating their brand too. As it stands now the branding is still very much “ Gawd Bless Murica”,…

whoopee.

Ha! I totally know what you’re talking about. I work in graphic design and I’ve had past jobs where the design directors also wanted to see the stuff outside, which made zero sense: All of the work was to be shown indoors with fluorescent lighting...

Jesus! Those are seriously screaming deals on ALL of those pictured above! I would’ve gladly bought the Studebaker and Caddy.

Sometimes I think the rich are bored. This is some of the most hoity-toity, useless bullshit. Outdoor lighting changes constantly and to simply shine a light on color samples won’t ever really show the true spectrum of how the color shall look most of the time.

The oil crisis was long over by 1977 as it had ended by 1974.

What good did ruining the car do anyway? Now that its trashed the creditors won’t get their money back now.

Agreed. The i3 is just horrendously ugly looking. I’d say at this point the most “normal”looking of the group is the current Volt. Looks sort of like a Honda somethingoranother...

That’s not saying a whole lot. I’ve seen a few of these at work and they aren’t exactly a good looking vehicle either. If anything they look kind of stupid. Looks like a minivan with an oversized, cartoonishly placed Mercedes grill stuck to the front.

Its because its not that great of a car. It costs over 40k and has the same range as a Leaf. There are a few I see around here and the impression I get from them are that they were bought by folks who like the idea of an “ EV” but can’t stand the idea of buying a plebeian brand like Nissan, Chevy, or Toyota.

Pretty much all German cars. And “Bro Trucks”.