When I was a kid me and my Dad were in an antique engine club. So the earlier engines were often 100's of pounds. As in one of ours was a 1.5 HP Fairbanks Morse which weighed in at over 250 pounds. It was started by grasping the giant flywheels and giving them a spin.

I just saw that you are in the Bay Area. Me too. If so, there are luckily a whole shit-ton of salvage yards all over the East Bay in San Leandro and Hayward for you to get crap for the car.

You’re about the 11-millionth person who blurts out “ Whaddabout GM?” when it comes to VW. Sure- GM fucked up, as you said. But what GM did is not what VW did.

Not sure how I’d be able to drink that much shitty beer. Maybe it really isn’t “Lite” beer.

Ask how many people who remember a car company whom INTENTIONALLY and deliberately engineered a part of their car to fail and do so as designed. When you do, perhaps then we can talk...

Curiously this discussions wasn’t about those other two companies.

Perhaps you should look up “ Strength through joy”.

Yeah except they haven’t. If it were then every other person I’ve known or know who owns(ed) a VW product, past or present, wouldn’t still be having the same problems VW’s have always had, and continue to have.

Yeah... whatever. Still won’t make anyone forget what they did and have been paying for over the past year. Besides- since VW seems to not be capable of making the power windows work in their “normal” cars I’m not sure they should be developing an entirely electric car anyway.

This thing is pretty fucking ugly. If this were any other brand the auto press would probably skewer it.

You’re wrong.

There’s already 5 billion responses here but whatever. Does anyone else feel a total sense of doom about the election? I’ve more or less already conceded that Trump is probably going to win. Why? Because it doesn’t seem to fucking matter what he says or does, his supporters just giddly go along with everything, like…

Even when these were new I thought they were sort of fugly.

Nah. Where I live it barely rains and the tread it still ok. But they will probably be replaced next month before the rain comes.

I used one of these things 6 months ago on one of my tires. The tires on the car are on their last legs so I figured screw it. So far its been holding up fine.

They have indeed. GM’s biggest problem remains to be perception: they spent so many years making garbage that the public still thinks as such. When I was a kid we had a 78' Old Delta 88, a 80' Chevy Malibu and my grandmother owned a Buick Lesabre: ALL were total pieces of shit. My parents switched to Toyotas and they…

You didn’t mention price points for your argument. You were making a broad statement about all of GM and their build quality.

That’s not why people buy those trucks anyway. They buy them so they can secure their manliness and show it on full display in front of their suburban home. That there might be stickers and stuff that says “ Super-Off-Road- Madness!” or whatever just ads to the mystique...

GM owns Opel. Opel is a GM product. Thus it is GM...

Volt owner, past Prius owner here: Sorry but ther Volt is a rather well built car. The fit and finish, handling, panel tolerances, and interior sound dampening have all been noticeably better than the Prius we drove for years.