Stop comparing this to the Tesla in any way. The i8 has less EV range than the older gen Prius plugin. It also has a gas engine. The two cars are as different from one another as night and day.

Who cares?

Maybe someday they will come close to catching up to Tesla.

I live in the SF Bay Area and it seems like every other car is an EV. I own a Volt that I bought used, but plenty of people bought these when they came out at 37k each. People are also buying overpriced EVs like the BMW i3 in seemingly large quantities around here.

I remember seeing this a few years ago. INSANE.

When I was a teenager me and a bunch of guys took my friend’s Dad’s pontoon boat out on the lake. We hit a BBQ grill tank that was floating out in the middle. Luckily all it did was put a small dent in one of the pontoons. Could’ve been a pretty nasty outcome.

Uhh... I would not be anywhere close to that thing. I saw a video on some TV show once of a ordinary BBQ grill tank exploding, which was horribly destructive so I can’t even imagine a big house sized one “letting go”.

None of what you mentioned gives free license for a company to cheat our regulations.

So far 46 people have agreed with what I have said. And I shall let that comment stand. All you need to do is prove to me that GM in fact intentionally engineered their ignition switch to fail and you might actually have an argument.

While I wouldn’t buy this as its more than I’d like to spend, this is one of the few luxury vehicles that is totally worth the asking price: Its a luxury land yacht that will absolutely handle offroading just fine and it will last for 20 years without a problem. Very well engineered machines and none of the…

I think you responded to the wrong comment...

I am still curious as to how so many people get confused over this. Its really cut and dry. You and others need to understand the distinction here because there is a major difference in the intent here. In order for your argument to hold water GM would have engineered their switches to fail... as in they would have…

But my point being- GM didn’t purposevly and intentionally engineer that switch to be defective, right? If we were to compare what GM to VW, the ignition switches would have been engineered to fail right away. Instead as it turned out the switches failed once there was a combination of wear to the switch mech and an…

That’s not what my argument was in regards to. My argument was in regards to the scandal concerning VW’s intentional engineering of a faulty system, which is totally different from a system that later turned out to have a unforseen defect. I am guessing you don’t understand that. By the way, none of this matters…

If that is really and truly your only argument then you will need to back it up with some facts. How do you know that the parts from other recalls from other automakers were from improper testing? At this point you are merely conjecturing. Nice try, but.... LOLOLOLOLOL!

... and for the 11-billionth time the big difference here is that VW intentionally and purposevely engineered a cheat for their emission systems. That is a major and signifigant difference between a defect that was determined after its introduction. So yes, sorry but when it comes to automotive scandals the VW thing…

Yes I agree with you. Those people, whomever they are who do not grasp hyperbole. Luckily at least for me my world doesn’t revolve around the slipshod products Chrysler chooses show us.

The auto cycle was invented about 140 years ago and thus I doubt Jeep concepts have existed since the dawn of time. Yuck yuck!

The generic, postage stamp car that every middle management professional yearns to buy.

Exactly. . Or more specifically products beyond what hipstery urban dwellers want. As in big ass SUVs, big ass trucks, and big boring cars.