And a minivan is 100% more useful and fuel efficient that a 3rd row CUV (read: denial minivan).

1. Buick TourX.

2. That extra .2" of ground clearance isn’t doing shit in a foot of snow, stop pretending.

A pillars, B pillars, C pillars, D pillars are all 2-3x as large creating huge blind spots.
Beltlines have gotten higher creating even less visibility as window size decreases.
Swoopy design leads to pillars taking up even more sightline.
Giant tablets on dashes create even more visibility hinderance and distraction.

Whenever I see someone obliviously blocking traffic in the left lane.... Toyota or Honda.

4Runner was the same basic platform for decades with minor updates.
Camry was the same basic platform forever.
Corolla was the same basic platform forever.
Rav same story.
Highlander same story.
Sienna same story.

Same basic vehicle with minor refreshes to make buyer think it’s new driven by oblivious idiots who generally…

They’re not really wrong though. The R34 still uses the RB26 engine, the only “real” change being the addition of variable timing. It still uses an updated version of the same AWD system. It’s still uses the same basic chassis.

Honest answer, something from the 90s-early 2000s.
Let’s face it, visibility of pretty much any modern vehicle is crap.

So much this.
Design has killed the functional sedan.
It takes a full size sedan of today to accomplish what a small midsize of 25-30 years ago could do with ease.

Can’t believe there are all these replies and no one has mentioned 3 row CUVs.

I mean, Toyota has just updated styling on the same platform for decades as well and their general driver is completely oblivious to the world around them, plus they sell far more, so on that vain, Toyota is far worse.

Unknown mileage (Read: Well over 200k, hence why they won’t say actual) and their choice of using shitty Walmart caps gives a good indicator of them being cheap on their vehicles, meaning it’s likely had minimal maintenance done as cheaply as possible.

Same deal there though. The modified A604 they used as a transaxle was the only readily available unit they had that could easily be adapted. No manuals in production could have fit the bill nor handled the power.

Yep.
Not only did the 3.5L make more HP than their best V8 of the day, but it weighed substantially less, which is how the Prowler managed it’s almost perfect 50/50 weight distribution.
They gave the best parts bin roadster they could without completely redesigning a powertrain for it and frankly, it was a pretty good…

People who claim Hellcats are one trick pony’s have never actually driven one.

Quite the contrary.
The 3.8 Mivec 6-speed powered 4th gens were the fastest/best handling Eclipse’s ever sold.
People hate on them, but they’re very enjoyable cars to drive.

I thought it was quite the opposite. The simplicity of the driveline actually made them one of the few reliable exotic cars.

I mean, 20-30 years ago you got something reliable, quiet, and comfortable on the highway.

The average buyer ditches a vehicle around 50-60k miles. What does long term reliability actually matter to them?

Slavery as a whole wasn’t what sparked the Civil War. Infringement on the very “State’s Rights” that was the whole cause of leaving Europe to begin with was.

Na.