You mean people will actively have to DRIVE this car? WTF?!

Those are all items I wouldn’t want and actively avoid anyway.

That’s why they call it Range Rover.

The slav squat would have gotten him out of this

Stolichnaya, you are a friend of mine,

If you are planning on adding power, get a used ND1 and have at it. There are at least two forced induction kits that are pretty well sorted. Toss on some sway bars, stickier tires and if you want to splash more cash, some Super Miata Xida’s. That would be one helluva car.

An LS in a first-gen Twin would be pretty cool too.

Tired old argument. Modern manuals are literally MADE for commuting, with all the dual-mass flywheels, clutch delay valves, softer-than-throttle-pedal clutch pedals and super light shift levers. I commute on a sportbike daily so either I’ve got a penchant for hardship or It really ain’t bad

Let’s keep this simple. NONE.

Could not agree more. Needing a loan for your credit is a myth that won’t leave. Wife and I have never had a car loan and have stelar credit. All we’ve had is a few credit cards since college, pay them off monthly, and never run a large balance. Especially for a new driver, get something you both can afford, and they…

Since it’s true that you can’t solve a social problem with a technological solution we’ll need to make it a social solution:
If you see someone in a “self driving” car without a butt in the driver’s seat, hands on the wheel and eyes on the  road, you can ram it off the road into the ditch and claim all their worldly…

I used to not understand the thinking behind “I’m buying this car for these advanced driver’s assistance systems, but I refuse to operate the way they are intended to used.”

Everyone’s situation is different. I worked from an early age and was able to buy many cars on my own before I graduated college. I drove a few beaters before that and learned along the way. But, ultimately, paying cash, buying reasonable, safe and efficient within one’s means are smart and should be appreciated more…

That’s impressive. All I did to my first car was slide into a curb in a snowstorm and bent a control arm.

I was 20. My parents cosigned with me so I could get a new car. I had a full time salary position just out of community college.

19 year old boys come in all sorts of flavors.

But why lose money at all? I started off at 18 with a student (non secured) credit card, and I now have 800+ without ever paying a single cent in credit card interest. No reason to ever pay to build credit history.

The fact it’s depreciating has no bearing whatsoever in the discussion because it’s money you have to spend regardless in order to have a mode of transportation. The only salient discussion is possible S&P returns - interest vs cash. S&P has had a phenomenal run the past few years and I personally would rather take a…

Sure I agree with that, don’t pay 20% interest on your credit card because you really wanted an expensive gadget.

Yeah, my parents helped me build credit by co-signing on a credit card with a very low limit ($250 or something). For that matter, don’t cell/internet plans count towards your credit as well? I had no trouble getting either a car loan or mortgage by 28, either way, without my parents signing on any bigger ticket…