“Where we are” is that these girls came forward together because one victim alone isn’t believable and then they’re suspected of lying for coming forward together. Rape culture 101: the accuser is a liar, no matter what.

I had two additional initial thoughts, in addition to the one you expressed, about this. (Both of them are depressing as hell).

Your job as a parent is as follows in cases like this.

The attorney prosecuting the case, Dickson Corbett IV, told Valley News that the decision to prosecute Tatro as an adult is a rare exception and based on the ability to tailor the punishment in case of a conviction.

I remember reading a great piece once. A study done interviewing several predatory men. As long as the interviewer took pains not to call their actions ‘rape’ or the men ‘rapists’, the men were eager to share/confess the stories of their, erm, exploits. For some reason, ‘rape’ is what bad people do; I’m not a bad…

“...choking girls who refused to engage in sex with him until they complied” sounds like rape to me.

she “didn’t want people to think she was raped.”

Well, that’s even less excusable, because they lacked the understanding of their role to treat someone who might be a customer as a potential sale.

This is a GT3RS we’re talking about, not a Ford Focus. Whenever you’re eyeing a performance model like a M, RS, AMG, etc. they typically have an “expert” there who deals with those cars and is equipped to answer any and all questions within reason. The last time I stepped foot in a Porsche dealer, the guys there knew…

Exactly!
The funny thing that a lot of people seem to be glossing over is the fact that he only asked questions. He didn’t ask for a test drive or anything, just questions that should be able to be answered simply without much drama.

“I wanted to prove them wrong...” he assured me. Then he followed up with “So did your parents give you money? like what do you even do for a living?”

Did you even read the article? He didn’t ask to test drive the gt3rs, just simply wanted more information on it. Nobody helped him when he walked in and specifically one person just bailed on him completely mid-question. He even mentioned after they said “we don’t let an kid take these out” that he didn’t want to…

None of that justifies his treatment or anyone’s treatment. How hard is that to understand?

It’s Karma. I’ll probably never buy a BMW because some lady was a jerk to me at a BMW dealership when I was 13 or 14. All I did was ask what model BMW I’d seen on the road and tried to describe it.

My dad taught me to go to the dealer dressed down. If they treat you nicely then (which doesn’t necessarily mean saying yes ... just no gracefully without being rude) then they’ll be nice to you wearing a suit. I still do it to this day.

While this may be true, I have had similar experiences twice. I tend to go car shopping when I can get an afternoon off or early evening on a weekday and twice have been ignored in basically empty showrooms where most of the sales people were just sitting around talking to each other. First time was when I upgraded…

I think that’s more the problem though. It’s not that they tried to verify if he was someone even worth talking to, it was that they were dicks about it. I have no problem with a friendly salesperson coming up to me and slipping in a casual “so what do you do” as part of some polite small talk. But if you’re an ass…

My dad wanted to order a 991 Turbo S, got the non-stop run around from the huge Porsche dealer in Bellevue, called up the one in Bellingham (Roger Jobs), they couldn’t have been more professional and courteous, drove up there and put his order it with zero fuss and bull. When I was looking for a Cayman, went right to…

I always find it funny when dealership employees or any employee for that matter make fun of people who can’t afford a $200k car or other pricy stuff. Dude, you are a sales employee. You can’t afford that shit either, so don’t act all mighty.