Anyways, where do you get off on socializing the risks of some dangerous choices but not others?

seriously, dude does NOT have experience with a heroin addict, why hasn’t anyone just fucking called out the obvious? don’t know SHIT other than movie representations of horse addicts

you’re not getting dogpiled. your idea is bad, stupid, and you’re coming across as callous and cruel and people are calling you out while you double, triple, and quadruple the fuck down.

You would propose that we punish people for seeking out treatment through garnishing their wages like some hackneyed debtor’s prison.

We have tried it out. That’s basically how it works now. The financial burden is entirely on the addict. Some of them have family members who assist, which is what it seems happened in your family. Others don’t, and either will never get any assistance due to being unable to pay for it, or end up in psych wards where…

Your argument is a pretty much text book definition of cutting off your nose to spite your face.

I know, right? I came out of the lurking stages for her humor; I stuck around for her wisdom. I have a super internet crush.

You can have a cookie too.

Except that people often start using drugs as a way to self-medicate trauma or mental illness. It isn’t as simple as “choosing” to do drugs.

Boo fuckin hoo. You’ve got a chip on your shoulder from a personal experience which I can understand and appreciate, but that in no way makes your ideas good ones.

I don’t think it’s your “feelings” saying that this person doesn’t understand human nature at all... I think it’s more like a flashing neon billboard hanging around their neck spelling it out in big block letters.

lololololololololol you think heroin addicts will “choose” not to be addicts because they’ll “have to pay for it” ten years from now? I find it hard to believe you do actually have personal experience with somebody close to you being an addict, because you sure do sound ignorant as all hell. Threats of future bills…

I’m stalking and starring your every comment on this issue, o wise one.

Statistics say that supervised injecting centers reduce diseases and can even reduce crime. They also give social workers a place to engage addicts, offering them a pathway back to sobriety. It is pretty counterintuitive, but they seem to work.

When a society decides to collectively deal with the costs of care it is usually a rational decision which recognizes the overall cost savings and social benefit to the public which will result. Your attitude is hardly novel and is a primary driver behind the unwillingness to socialize basic human services. We need to…

There’s no way to “discourage destructive behavior”, though. That’s not how people think. Nobody tries heroin thinking “Hey, prison and long-term health issues sounds AWESOME!” Most of the time, drug addiction is a short-term solution to a long-term psychological problem that, if you don’t treat it, will remain.

Yes, but you’re asking someone to use financial logic who is literally unable to do so. You’re actually asking for an impossible thing. And mental care is incredibly hard to access in the United States, and is extremely costly, as are medications, and it takes a lot of hard work and effort to get medications right. It…

Do you have any idea how hard it is to get an addict into rehab in the first place? A financial burden thrown into the mix—even if it’s a “long run” type of thing—will turn people away. This kind of policy results in addicts dying who could have been saved.

“You say potato, I say potato.”

Decriminalizing drugs is a very good thing.