So, just so we're all on the same page here, the entire fashion industry is the worst, right?

I dunno. Gunn was posed a question, and answered honestly. He said he is conflicted and unsure about the issue, I don't see anything wrong with someone admitting they are conflicted about an issue. Hell, I'd much prefer it over someone so adamant and staunch in their position that they can't even hear another…

I sort of met him once. He has a very nice handshake with a firm grip and he looks at you and pays attention even if you're in line with like 20,000 people waiting to shake that same hand. I want to put him in my pocket. I just love the man, so maybe I'm biased. IMHO, his comments weren't hateful, just confused and…

I get what he's trying to say no need for pitchforks.

He's asking for more body diversity. He is saying that designers are using trans models as a way to present "diversity" while clinging to the same body types. He's long said he wants to see more diverse shapes on the runway, and he is positing that many transwomen have the traditional model body type- i.e., slim,…

Speaking as a passionate seamstress with a crush on Andrej Pejic, I don't find this comment as upsetting as many here do. To me he is speaking specifically to the fact that men, regardless of build, have more narrow pelvises. CIS-Women ALWAYS have outwardly-flared hipbones, and those born male don't. And designers are…

I think people are conflating what he's saying. He is saying that designers are using trans models as a way to present "diversity" while clinging to the same body types. He's long said he wants to see more diverse shapes on the runway, and he is positing that many transwomen have the traditional model body type- i.e.,…

The Trans community should attack their obvious allies at every opportunity. Shame and vitriol are so much more effective than education.

Agree with you entirely, except - I don't think Heidi is all that skinny, especially these days. Teutonically healthy, more like.

Oh great, Jezebel is trying to turn me against another person that I like.

Come on folks, get with the program. Tim Gunn is talking about how alarming it is that a body shape so definitively unobtainable for the average woman as Andre Peijic's is being used to promote aspirational, luxury clothing (sorry if I spell their name wrong). He's questioning how useful that kind of model is to the…

I don't think what he said is problematic. He admits he's conflicted on the issue. If you feel he doesn't have a complete understanding of the issue, surely you can relay information without shaming him.

Well, I think we all know what we have to do now.

I think that it's perfectly honorable for a person to say that they're conflicted on an issue, and Tim Gunn is nothing if not honorable in everything that I've seen him do.

Inartfully and problematically said in terms of ascribing gender, but this was the message I read:

I understand what he's saying, but I think there's a much better way to say it. He clearly thinks that the area in which diversity is most needed right now is in sizes and shapes, and is concerned that designers are using trans models in order to claim diversity when really they're still just casting white women who…

And he has a problem with that.

Obviously I only "know" Tim Gunn via TV and interviews but he seems like one of the kindest, most reasonable persons in media today. He admits that he's conflicted and unsure on the issue and I'm more than willing to give him leeway to work out some of those issues publicly because I trust he'll do so out of a place…

At least he's saying he's conflicted, and w/ the dialogue this has prompted he may gain some clarity on how he really feels. One thing I keep in mind when it comes to Tim Gunn is he appears to see aesthetics first and foremost; he can come off very sharply and unkind w/ designers b/c he says what he sees rather than…

Hmmm, this is interesting because I read somewhere that the reason designers tend not to use models of color is because they are shaped "differently"; meaning, I guess, that a black and white model could have the same measurements, but the black model would be perceived as having bigger hips, breasts and bum. Tim Gunn…