Technology once again fails to make drivers any better.

Computers have been promising us the “paperless office” since the 1960s - it hasn’t happened yet, either.

Also, real life hunger games.

Yes. Please, this is the point that needs to be emphasized. Brake AND steer to avoid collisions. Most people just jam on their brakes and hope for the best.

Also depends on how good the driver is with tickling that friction threshold and modulating the brakes when the wheels do lock.

ABS is not and never was intended to reduce stopping distances. Its purpose is to allow an automated separation of controls for the vast majority of drivers who don’t have track time or training to allow them to instinctively control their car at the limit.

This article confirms that modern ABS systems need to be better, and process information more quickly. If the pumps and processors were faster, then an ABS car with the pedal stomped should require very minimal increase in stopping distance when compared to a car that doesn’t engage the ABS system. Anyone who’s in…

If grip is so low that ABS engages easily with little pedal travel, does it change anything if you push the pedal even further?

ABS was never superior to proper braking technique, no matter the surface. Each time it pulses the brakes there is a moment where no brake are applied, and those moments add up and eat into your braking distance.

I was not commenting on the correct way to stop faster. It was a joke on the action of braking by using disco era slang. I am sorry I had to explain this.

Exactly. Most people think that a car with ABS stops faster, but the point of ABS is to be able to control the car under heavy braking by stopping the wheels locking up. A normal car, on dry tarmac, actually stops in a shorter distance (up to 2 car lengths shorter in some cases) without ABS then with ABS.

Well duh. People with a lick of sense accelerate slowly in snow, and decelerate gently.

But this debate has existed since the beginning of ABS. A great driver who can feel slippage, can beat ABS on snow. A decent driver who is relaxed and confident can beat ABS on snow.

But if you are in a situation where you have to…

Ya’ll are doing good work here... correcting the general public’s perception that ABS “helps you stop faster”. No it doesn’t - it helps you keep some steering capability to (theoretically) avoid an accident while mashing the brake pedal as if you were killing a spider. Which -for the majority of drivers with target…

Pump your brakes, you jive turkey.

- Shift in reverse

At that time, for all-out performance, Chrysler had the Dodge Viper. The Prowler was never intended as an all-out performance vehicle.

If they put in the V8, it would have had LESS power and more weight.

Actually, the PT was more of a CUV... but no AWD.

Assuming you’re referring to the Prowler and not the PT Cruiser.

I think you mean the Prowler?